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Jb should have just kept his mouth shut, maybe made some half assed apology, but that’s about it. Making a big deal about how unacceptable Kage’s comment was is just pandering to the far right. It’s mostly just the far right that is pearl clutching over this.
Comedy is the last bastion of free speech. If you do not like the joke then stop listening, move on, change the channel. Censoring comedy because someone doesn’t like the joke is the only thing that is unacceptable here. Really disappointed in Jabels here.
Yeah...
Or maybe theres more to it than we know. I'd actually be shocked if he and his family weren't receiving death threats for those comments, so I dunno, maybe he didn't want him and his fans to get shot the fuck up at one if their shows (or at the very least have issues performing due to anxiety over such an event).
Unfortunately, in the current US, it's not an irrational fear for someone like him. I can't say I blame him at all.
It's fucking stupid, but here we are.
Canceling the tour and essentially breaking up the band is what brought all the attention in the first place. My point was that nobody in the US would have heard about this if JB hadn’t made such a big deal.
Australian venues were already cancelling before JB did anything.
What is this about? I must've missed this.
His partner in Tenacious D, Kyle Gass, had his birthday the day after the Trump assassination attempt. When asked what he wished for his birthday live on stage, Kyle said "don't miss Trump next time".
Jack canceled the remaining shows and has posted some huge social media posts about how terrible that joke was and how upset he is.
Oh and in his posts he said that all future creative plans for the band are on hold, not just the tours.
Which to me seems like a massive overreaction. I can understand canceling the tours for safety but everything else? Eh...
I can agree. It was a joke in poor taste but a stern talking would have been fine, right? People make mistakes and it's best to keep politics far from entertainment.
Pretty sure it was venues that started cancelling shows
I can't see that unless some trump turd was in charge of the venue bookings. Most operators are going to take money over pearl-clutching, and hell knows most people that would go see a TenD concert would have preferred to see Donny take one between the headlights to begin with, so they aren't going to complain.
Especially since at the concert everyone laughed, there was no pearl clutching till the twitter post
You never paid attention to the lyrics of City Hall
Tenacious D have a song about Don Jr. bring a fascist KKK dictator who they overthrow.
Tenacious D.... inoffensive....ok.
The government totally sucks mother fucker, the government totally sucks…
All you people up there in City Hall, you're fucking it up for all the people that's in the streets, this is a song for the people in the streets not the people in City Hall....
The fuck are you talking about? As far as I understand it, he didn't throw Gass in a cage to keep him from every stating a joke again... he just chose not to participate in something he didn't agree with. That kind of choice thing you claim to be for.
Are you some sort of free speech absolutist who only wants people to agree with you?
Imo, JB capitulated to the far right by so staunchly objecting to KG’s comment/joke… it wasn’t necessary for him to make such a big deal about it, legitimizing the outrage which, imo, wasn’t justified.
Have whatever opinion you want, idgaf.
Also, a ‘free speech absolutist’ and ‘only wanting people to agree with you’ are unrelated concepts… to quote you, the fuck are you talking about?
Was there even any outrage? The only news I read was about Jack Black canceling the concerts, nothing about Kyle Gass' original comment.
It was a Streisand effect for sure. There was a small backlash/outrage, then JB shined a light on it by canceling the tour.
kevin rudd was physically ill, the poor dainty
it's kind of dramatic to frame "hey it's not cool to use our platform to jokingly encourage would-be assassins" as "capitulation" to such-and-such political movement. by all means make assassination jokes in private but it's different when it's through a megaphone like that - we live in an age of stochastic terror man, that shit's been weaponized for a decade now and it's silly to pretend it isn't as long as the "joke" reflects your own feelings. this is some maga-level mental gymnastics, maybe think more about it.
Why can't people see that this is about self-preservation, not PR.
Like for fuck sake, do you need to see gay people lined up against a wall by conservative death squads before realizing how fucked up the situation here is?
I'd be shocked if both of them (and their families) have not been receiving death threats since Gass made the joke.
So fucking what? He is a public figure. They get death threats all the time.
If you honestly cannot tell what's different about the current political atmosphere in the US, then I truly don't know what to say.
The difference is the missing backbone of too many people.
Sure thing, bud.
So you cant really disagree with arguments then? Cool.
I didn't see any arguments?
Because you havent given any... You asked a question. I answered you didnt say why you disagree with the answer.
When you're in a world-famous band and have a family receiving a constant stream of (I'm sure sexually explicit and extremely violent) death threats describing to you in detail the horrific things they will do to your wife and kids in front of you if you choose to continue touring, then maybe you can fucking talk. Especially only a couple of weeks after the former (and at-the-time frontrunner to be next) President was literally shot at and missed getting killed by an inch or two.
Political violence in this country is very real. Sorry if I'm not going to shit on someone for putting the safety of their family over some (ultimately, let's all be adults here, pretty cheesy) heavy metal parody rock band. I would do the same thing.
You have no idea what these people are probably dealing with in private right now. Big fucking tough guy on the internet.
I dont care what people rich enough to afford protection go through. He didnt need to do or say anything. Hell he could have even said he didnt like the joke. Would be spineless but not as spineless as completely throwing his friend under the bus.
You're strangely invested in this... Hope you get a refund for your tickets?