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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, if your solution isn't to prioritize rail transport and reduce the amount of paved surface around, then I fail to see what else you could be suggesting besides further investing in roads.

The roads and sidewalks in my hometown are falling apart and in terrible shape and still NO ONE is going to do what you are suggesting.

That sounds like their problem, then.

It’s ridiculous and you are just wasting your breath trying to get people to abandon their cars. They are all farmers there and they need their vehicles.

Want to show me where I'm "trying to get people to abandon their cars" without qualification? Sure, I'll encourage someone who lives and works in San Francisco to get rid of their car, because the development patterns there already allow for it, and anybody who owns a big fuck-off truck but doesn't haul anything bigger than groceries can definitely get rid of that shit. But in suburbia, I have no problem with a person owning a car, nor does anybody else here: the system they inhabit has made alternatives nonviable. Once development patterns shift to accommodate alternatives, once going car-free is a viable option, then you talk about that. Nobody here argues for individual solutions to our systemic problems.