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People's attention spans are 5 seconds long, and art/culture change constantly.
If you prohibit them from training on new content, the models will age super poorly, and they'll fall into disuse.
It wouldn't be prohibited. It would just mean that the likes of Reddit or Facebook can charge more for "consent" to train on their content.
So stop using reddit.
You want to convince everyone to stop using Reddit, Facebook, etc. so that LLMs go away? You know that's not going to work.
Not "go away" so much as "become dated and useless".
Well as long as you are honest about your motivations I can give you that much.
I don't want Disney destroyed. I want them to pay creatives well and stop with their legal/lobbying games. That's the difference, I want people to do the morally correct thing you want to punish people.
I'm not sure what the dishonest motivations would be; I don't really have a problem with content generators, other than;
To the first point; If they (OpenAI, Adobe, Disney, et al) hired a bunch of people, paid them a fair wage to generate art (text, images, whatever), got permission (contractual, with residuals), trained a model, then used it responsibility (for concepts and drafts), then sure; have your models and use 'em.
To the second point; I mentioned that the models aren't good, and it's because they aren't actually creating anything, just mashing old content together. I also mentioned before that the models need to be used responsibly; You can't just hit "generate" and ship it as final product. You need editors and artists to follow up on the model output. The model should be used to make tedius work easier, not replace talented artists.
you could use the models to train the models to get better at making new things.
Not really. They start hallucinating pretty quick.