Fuck AI

We can't just use the fear of death to justify any means to prevent it. If we found out we could live eternally but had to destroy other creatures or humans to do so, we would consider that to be too high a cost.

Sure, there are costs that are too high for anything.

The cost for AI at the moment is just immoral. Even those who have found methods to deal with the costs, are still benefiting from calling it AI in the form of investments and marketing. Calling their work AI is worth money because of all of this fraudulent behavior.

This is the part where it breaks down though. There's nothing inherently immoral about AI. It's not the concept of AI you have problems with. It's the implementation. I hate a lot of the implementation, too. Shoehorning an AI into everything, using AI to justify a reduction in labor, that all sucks. The tool itself, though? Pretty fuckin awesome.

If I started growing and producing my own organic abuse free heroin and selling it, it would still be immoral because I'm benefiting from the economy created by the illegal market. I'm participating in that market despite my efforts.

Are we comparing this to cancer research still? If so that's a bit of a WILD statement. It's pretty close to the COVID vaccine denial mentality - because it was made using something I don't like/fully understand, it must be bad.

Ive said before that if these companies doing the ethical AI stuff want to stop being criticized for being part of this AI nonsense, feel free to call it something else. AI is overly broad and applied incorrectly all the time as it is anyways, and is mainly applied to things to draw money and interest that otherwise wouldnt exist.

Ok let's go back to drugs, then. If we were making your organic, free trade heroin, but called it beroin so that we're not piggybacking off the heroin market, we're good? No, that doesn't make sense. Heroin will fuck up someone's life regardless of what you call it, how it was produced, eetc.There's (virtually) no legitimate, useful application of heroin. Probably not one we'd ever see the production of broadly okayed.

Conversely, you've already agreed that there are ethical uses and applications of AI. It doesn't matter what the name is, it's the same technology. AI has become the term for this technology, just like heroin has become the term for that drug, and it doesn't matter what else you want to call it, everyone already knows what you mean. It doesn't matter what you call it, its uses are still the same. It's impact is still the same.

So yeah, if you just have a problem with, say, cancer researchers using AI, and would rather them use, idk, AGI or any of the other alternative names, I think you're missing the point.