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Desire Paths

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Desire paths Desire paths can be paths created as a consequence of erosion caused by human or animal foot-fall or traffic. The paths usually represent the shortest or most easily navigated routes between origins and destinations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_path

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Just outside of Pontarlier, France

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I don't understand why they don't use 1-2 bollards instead of those snakey barriers. Even with regular bikes they're hard to pass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

They are made to be hard to pass, so cyclists have to slow way down before riding onto the crossing street. They are not meant to keep cars out, maybe as an afterthought.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

That's very specifically the intent. The road looks to have blind corners to the cycle path. They want a cyclist ideally to dismount and look before proceeding.

These also make it more difficult for mopeds to enter the path.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So they can open them I guess for landscaping etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's bollards that can be folded down, or retract into the ground for regular traffic like buses or service vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but those are pretty expensive I'd imagine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

A removable bollard is just a post in a hole

[–] BehindTheBarrier 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not sure if the term landscaping covers plowing, but if there is snow in the winter it makes sense to open them to plow the area.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@DarkThoughts @AchtungDrempels @joakimfors Try to pass them on a MTB with a 800 mm wide handlebar. It's basically suicide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Make a bunny hop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@DarkThoughts @AchtungDrempels I suspect most planners don’t bike so they simply don’t understand the dynamics. They think they’ve done a good job making it “safe”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Even then, a bollard is less material, so it should be cheaper too.