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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

These kind of MFs usually be like "Don't do the illegal drug that will destroy your life, do the legal one! Ethanol comes under many street names, like beer, whiskey, wine, etc."

(I'm against prohibition, I just like to point out these MFs hypocrisy, especially when the booze is kind of subsidized by the state due to it being a "national treasure".)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and many naive young people don't really understand the fine lines between fun illegal party drugs (weed, molly, LSD) and life changing, soul crushing, body destroying incredibly immediately addictive illegal party drugs (crack, heroin, meth etc )

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

You should possibly think about what let you to put MDMA in the fun group and Methamphetamine in the immediately addictive one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

especially when the booze is kind of subsidized by the state due to it being a "national treasure".

What?! Even in Russia vodka is not subsidized.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not directly subsidized, but definitely different treatment than other drugs thanks to successfull lobbying in Germany. Alcohol can far more easy sponsor and advertise e.g. Or the rage of the conversatives when weed got legalized (badly in comparison of course) this year, while they really like to take photos at Germany's greatest drug convention (Oktoberfest) or get themself "elected" to Wine Queen/Beer Kind of boring region X.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

§8 (10) MStV:

Werbung für alkoholische Getränke dürfen den übermäßigen Genuss solcher Getränke nicht fördern

Advertising for alcoholic beverages must not encourage the excessive consumption of such beverages

Of course, that's vague AF to the point where you can argue both that anything but "Hey let's portray binge drinking as cool" is a-ok and on the other hand that portraying any kind of positive association with alcohol is not ok. And considering how the regulators somehow refuse to shut down right-out scam call-in shows there's not much hope for them to interpret that in a way advertisers would disagree with (advertisers have their own rules because shitstorms against their behaviour are not good advertisement).

Talking about political strategy though, I don't think that's a particularly good point to start, the first step should be warning labels, akin to tobacco. And yes I'm completely fine with the same kind of labels on coffee and tea and while we're at it ultra-processed food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Most ethanol in the US comes from corn, which is absolutely subsidized heavily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In Hungary, it kind of it is, if your manufacturer is in the right circle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Please fix. Don't be worse than Russia.