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Japan declares victory in effort to end government use of floppy disks (japantoday.com)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

US gov isn't even tape free

[–] [email protected] 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Tape makes an excellent, dirt cheap, large scale backup solution. You can get a 30 TB tape for 45 bucks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

As long as you test restoring those backups, which is where many entities fail.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wish smaller scale tape storage was more viable for home use (homelab scale). Would love to have tapes instead of spinning drives for something like a home media server.

Last time I looked into it I didn’t even know where to start. Is it more feasible now? I’d imagine power consumption would also be better than keeping disks spinning all the time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tape is not great for things you actually want to access like media

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Yes, but it's great for your emergency backup copy of media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My thought process is that in the case of media I’m not accessing the same files over and over, at least not for most of the files. For a media archive it would make sense, to me at least. I’m not familiar with modern tape storage, I’m sure there’s many good reasons why this isn’t done (yet?).

Would be good for self hosted offsite backups too I’d imagine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

You don’t get fast random access. So you have to read the whole tape if it’s near the end.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The tape drives I found were really expensive. But as others mentioned, it’s not really suitable for media anyway. Only cold storage backup.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah brother

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Linear Tape-Open (LTO) has significant advantages in certain situations, such that you have to make specific design decisions if you don't want people to use it: https://www.chia.net/2018/06/11/the-asic-resistance-of-proof-of-space/ https://chiaforum.com/t/lto-tape-drive-as-a-storage-option/12829/3

I will always remember stumbling upon this video ("HP Protecting your business data (or Disc vs Tape)"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHP_bKJx2xg

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Frick yeah

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Amazon and Facebook probably aren't tape free either. Tape is crazy cheap and reliable. It's just really slow.