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If inciting an insurrection towards their own government is an action without legal repercussions, I don't see how the law would be less lenient about straight up firing a gun at an opponent.

I by no means want any party to resolve to violent tactics. So even though I play with the thought, I really don't want anything like it to happen. I am just curious if it's actually the case that a sitting president has now effectively a licence to kill.

What am I missing?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think that "some bullshit reason" would be murder.

People have gotten fucking ridiculous lately.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They said "some bullshit reason" because the same logic would very clearly not be applied to trump if he were to do the same. Think a bit. It's ok.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The bullshit in this example is not that they would find Biden guilty but that they could/would find Trump innocent.

That would be bullshit. Biden killing Trump being ruled as murder would not be bullshit, it'd be accurate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guilt or innocence is irrelevant in this case. The only thing that matters is whether the President was acting in an "official" capacity or not. If a Republican does it, it was official. If a Democrat does, it was not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I agree, that's how it would go. But you can't start advocating for a Democratic president to murder his opponent with official impunity, just because of some politically motivated bullshit SCOTUS ruling. That way total anarchy and facism lies.

If people start calling for that, then it's no better than the shit show of a second Trump presidency may be. The rule of law matters, and it should apply to all equally. If Trump did it and got away with it, it would be bullshit, he should not get away with it. If Biden did it, he should not get away with it either, whether it's "official" or not. Murder is murder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You're correct, and I wasn't saying otherwise. I'm just pointing out that the corrupt SCOTUS has set themselves up as the arbiter of consequences for the President. They can protect or not on a whim, with no way for anyone else to challenge them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. It's properly fucked up. Genuinely worried about the state of the States in the next few years if the Dems don't get their acts together and win in November (and even if they do, tbh)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Same. Dems winning presidential elections feels like a drowning person who's desperately thrashing around managing to get a lungful of air before sinking again.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

If people start calling for that, then it’s no better than the shit show of a second Trump presidency may be.

I cannot disagree more strongly. Biden has this chance to RESTORE rule of law, which SCOTUS has already shredded. I will take the risk of Biden becoming a dictator over the near certainty that Trump will.