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[meme] Trains are 100000x easier to electrify and automate than cars, so why does everyone keep talking about electric and driverless cars? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EV's are so much more efficient that even running from electricity produced by coal, they are significantly better than ICE (internal combustion engine) cars. Just the electricity used to refine enough fuel to drive 100mi would be enough to drive an average EV more than 60mi. (This detail gets conveniently left out when comparing ICE cars to EVs).

We still need to decarbonise the grid, and as that happens, all electric cars (regardless of age) will become less polluting too. Having an unclean grid is not an excuse to keep using ICE vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't consider that refining fuel takes energy too. Does the drilling and transport get factored in to that as well?

Thanks for sharing the info!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The numbers I've used are only for the refining of the fuel. This video by Mark Linthicum (hosted on the Fully Charged channel) gives an amazing amount of information on the topic.