this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2024
846 points (98.1% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
6 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

GitCode, a git-hosting website operated Chongqing Open-Source Co-Creation Technology Co Ltd and with technical support from CSDN and Huawei Cloud.

It is being reported that many users' repository are being cloned and re-hosted on GitCode without explicit authorization.

There is also a thread on Ycombinator (archived link)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It is not illegal is it?

If it is legal, then thank you China for the free backup.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I do believe it's illegal if they take a repository with a restrictive license (which includes any repository without a license), and then make it available on their own service. I think China just doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it's hosted in a public repo, anyone can clone it, that's very much part of most git flows.

What you can do with the software, how you can use it, that's another matter, based on the licence.

That of course assumes China will respect the copyright..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Sure, you can probably clone it - I'm not 100% sure, but I think laws protect that as long as it's private use.

You can also fork it on GitHub, that's something you agree to in the GitHub ToS - though I think you're not allowed to push any modifications if the license doesn't allow it?

Straight up taking the content from GitHub, uploading it to your own servers, and letting people grab a copy from there? That's redistribution, and is something that needs to be permitted by the license. It doesn't matter if it's git or something else, in the end that's just a way to host potentially copyrighted material.

Though if you have some reference on why this is not the case, I'd love to see it - but I'm not gonna take a claim that "that's very much a part of most git flows".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Illegal according to who?

The US? Why would China care, they are their own country with their own laws.

International courts? Who is enforcing those judgments?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You can buy pirated software or pre-cracked consoles in stores there. They don't care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Law do not exist by itself; it's the result of balance of power. How would you know that your State do not use illegally free software ? And if you know it, could you sue it ? Even if it's a classified administration ?

Apply laws Internationally is even worse. It usually depends of the imperialist relationship between States. For exemple, Facebook rules was illegal in France, but France changes it's laws rather than sue Facebook. A decade later, the whole European Union could forte RGPD upon the GAFAM.

China have nothing to fear in ignoring those licence, and we shouldn't rely on it to protect our work. However we could strengthen our common defenses, through FOSS for people in the US … and maybe trade unions elsewhere.