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I think people should need a licence to drive anything that has a tall nose. The chance of fatality is really high for those cars and people need to be taught that.
Iiiiiidiot tax! $99,99 for 2 hour course where people tell you "You see that hood? Yeah, you hit someone with it, that person is GONE".
I just want to put a small barrier between people and buying a car that's may more dangerous than any reasonably sized alternative. If people want storage space they should buy a station wagon. If they want to transport for work they should buy a Caddy type. If they want to go outdoors offroading then they should get a licence on how to drive offroad and how to prevent front-over accidents etc.
SUVs and bigger cars are becoming the default choice and I think that's a bad thing.
Honestly, they know that. But fashion is fashion, and people's desire is rarely logical. So that barrier...I don't think it will work any better than actual idiot tax. The only offputting thing would be price.
There's already an idiot tax, a crossover costs 50% more than regular. Price is not an issue for people that buy these but a license, course and having the license easier to revoke for speeding in pedestrian zone might work.
...problem is that manufacturers are discontinuing cars to focus upon SUVs + trucks...
It's starting to impact the used car market where I live. Not as many options as before when half are cross/suv.
I would love a station wagon, but not many of those around where I live 🙃
https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-station-wagons
Apparently these things are what they are calling station wagons these days.
Lmao what? These are practically SUV's
Fr, I would call every single one of those a "crossover" before I called them station wagons.
That Volvo v60 is the closest thing to a modern station wagon. If it doesn't have 3 big side windows from front to back, it shouldn't be called a station wagon.
...that mercedes wagon is legitimate...
Fucking hell the size inflation is too real. Toyota Auris and Hyundai i30 are good ones for anybody looking.
The Volvo isn't too bad, but yeah it's weird how big they got on the outside, while at the same time seemingly having less storage inside.
Most people buying one of these expended exactly zero seconds of thought on what they need from an automobile.
If someone even managed to get any law in place like what you're suggesting (which they won't because it goes against the interests of business), the right wing idiot backlash would be furious and cacophonous and the net result would be Florida marking a day on the calendar as state wide "Ford-fuck-you-mobile" day.
...registration fees should be proportional to GVWR and speed limits (and fines) should be based upon kinetic energy...
The thing is if we actually make an off-road vehicle then something in the form factor of a uni-mog is vastly superior.
mogs are cool, i don't know much about them because they seem to be primarily european, but i will probably own one someday out of curiosity, i only hear good things about them.
Personally i'm a fan of industry trucks though, tatra, oshkosh, unimog, the usual suspects. Ford can eat shit.
Mandatory weekly attendance for every week you wanna continue to drive around that thing in a city.
better yet, mandatory lifelike dummy crash experience. Send em into a ballistics gel dummy loaded with blood and organs, see how they feel about it.
Yep these big rigs should require a CDL, enough with the light trick exemption
If it doesnt have airbrakes, and you remove enough seats, you are legally allowed to drive a school bus with a normal liscence.
We need a LOT of attention to liscensing for different types of vehicles beyond just these trucks
Many countries do demand a commercial vehicle license for such trucks.
I agree you already need a license to drive a semi trucks I believe but just as someone who dailys a little itty bitty BMW z3 and works at a Toyota dealership and has driven 60s international harvesters anything bigger than a jeep wrangler takes time getting used to being tall and bulky hell I've seen people driving in the middle of the road because they got acclimated to driving a corrola and just hopped into a f150 as a man who has flipped my ATV making trails off roading no matter what your in you need to be instructed on the ins and outs of off roading I'm so onboard for making a sort of truck driving license