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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

No one's mentioned the privacy nightmare that new vehicles are. Why anyone would pay $45k for a vehicle that spies on you for the sole benefit of car manufacturers and insurance companies is beyond me. Do away with all the unnecessary privacy violations, or pay ME a monthly subscription for MY data.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep, this is the reason I won't get an EV or any modern car. Probably gonna be driving 2016 cars or older the rest of my life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I am uncomfortable with this as a permanent solution because new cars of today are old cars of tomorrow. Apparently at least in some vehicles, the telematics module is possible to remove with loss of some functionality - seen some videos and posts on that. I think we need an iFixit-like database comparing vehicles on that front - how easy is the unit to remove and what functions it affects. To be fair, the ones I've seen were on newer gas vehicles, so idk if EVs usually have that integrated tighter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not my ideal solution either, but I don't see modern cars getting any better on privacy. If some manufacturer made a stripped down, privacy preserving car I'd be all about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't see them getting better either - so at least I, maybe because I am not educated enough, think the solution is also in learning to rip out the privacy invasions rather than waiting for regulation or privacy-conscious models.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The problem is they integrate that shit with the functions you do want like the radio and AC and then make you operate it all through a god damn touchscreen so that if you get on the highway before you realize you forgot to turn the shitty lane assist off you now have to take your life in your hands to disable it or risk it ramming you into that ladder or pothole or something because it doesn't want you to change lanes abruptly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I mean the cell modem specifically. But yea, the touchscreens are also a problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

This is not specific to EVs, but is most cars from the last decade or two

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

A used car that has physical gauges and knobs that's $5000 + $1500 in preventive maintenance can actually make a decent vehicle. Plus doing the maintenance yourself can teach you a lot about working on cars.