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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Yeah isn't it weird how somehow the "landscape" they're so worried about messing up with wind turbines or solar panels... Is never impacted by things like this?

Literally have never heard a conservative complain about strip mining even though it's insanely ugly and the closest we can come to actually raping the planet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I lived in an area that was going to start strip mining for sand that was the right consistency for fracking. Plenty of conservatives were amongst the loudest opponents. There's plenty of hypocracy, no need to exaggerate. Their reasons were not wanting to have so much heavy equipment on the roads and fear of silicosis, not opposing natural gas extraction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There’s plenty of hypocracy, no need to exaggerate

Okay, I wasn't exaggerating. The existence of one counter example doesn't mean I was. For examples about what I mean: see almost every coal mining town ever. It's like a cult. The conservatives almost unanimously are in favor of coal no matter what it does to their environment or how badly the mining companies disregard safety and basic human dignity. I have never heard a conservative oppose or complain about strip mining, literally never. But if alternative energy ever comes up, they're all suddenly very concerned with natural beauty. This doesn't mean conservatives never once had an issue with strip mining, it just means that it's extremely rare in comparison to their comments like this: "omg wind turbines are UGLY and kill ALL the BIRDS"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Because they don't care that the strip mine is ugly.

They also don't care that the windmill is ugly, even though they're saying it is.

What they actually care about is "Shut up liberal"

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I share the viewpoint of the meme, but here is the answer: to see one of these big holes, I have to drive there to see it. To see a wind turbine, I just need to look out of the window. Wind turbines are scattered everywhere. Coal mining pits are localised. They are massive, yes, but who cares when you don't live nearby, lived in a village torn down for mining or driving through it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sooo... strip mining is better because it's less visible (it's actually not. source: have driven around the US)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well,... Yes. It's not visible, so it doesn't bother as many people. As long as sweatshops are situated in Thailand and not in European cities, it's easy to buy a cheap pair of jeans and not think about where it came from. Same with a coal pit "somewhere else where I am not".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, but mines ruin villages and their water supply; and if the villagers protest, then the company may kill them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I’m not downvoting you but counterpoint: big fans are neat