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  • Mozilla has reinstated previously banned Firefox add-ons in Russia that were designed to circumvent state censorship, such as a VPN and a tool to access Tor websites.
  • The ban was initially imposed at the request of Russia's internet censorship agency, Roskomnadzor, but Mozilla lifted it to support an open and accessible internet.
  • Mozilla's decision reflects its commitment to users in Russia and globally, despite the potential risks associated with the regulatory environment in Russia.
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[–] [email protected] 84 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I'm wondering where all the people that filled the other threads complaining about how Mozilla was evil and "enshittifying" are, now.

There's nothing to be outraged about, so I guess not here.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I was one, I'll admit it and I'm glad I was wrong

As far as why? Because FF/Mozilla positions themselves as THE browser for privacy and "For the people", but Mozilla is also a for-profit company so I'm always expecting the worst out of them just like I have for so many other for-profit companies

Just look at Canonical, they're pursuing an IPO RN and are already in the early stages of enshittification because of it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Canonical has been in the early stages of enshittification for a dozen years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Mozilla is a non profit organisation.

You're basically mad because you're misinformed, not because of reality.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They're both; Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit org, is the parent of Mozilla Corporation, the for-profit organization I'm talking about.

Mozilla Corporation is in charge of distribution of the official download and development coordination and some other things. Now the Foundation is in charge over them admittedly, but I see that as a bit like playing with fire.

I wouldn't say mad, more...just prepared for the worst

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

I was one . And I am glad to have been wrong .

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe those expressions had a part in Mozilla's reversal?

What are you taking a victory lap for exactly?

If anything, a small victory lap is for all those people you sound smug about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

God, I hate fanboyism. Maybe, maybe the criticism was warranted? idk just a thought. If someone fucks up everyone can point it out. Of course there are always people who will defend and deny anything no matter what… like star citizen fans or hardcore apple fans

Now we can see that they corrected some of their mistakes, very good

But nah some ripcord must try to stir shit instead of enjoying the good news. Apparently being still salty about bad comments smearing their favourite company…

Yeah well Mozilla is probably on of the more ok things to fanboy if someone absolutely can’t live without that but it’s still a bit cringe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I was one too. Glad they caved to the criticisms and reinstated the extension. It doesn't absolve them of removing it in the first place and trying to pull a sneaky, but at least they listened.

Where are we now? Well wherever we are it sounds like us internet moaners stay winning.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's one way of viewing it i guess. My guess would have been that an organization like Mozilla has to make sure what the consequences are for not complying, and after they figured out there was no real danger they did the right thing.

It's easy to say they should always do the right thing, but they have to keep in mind their own safety, and that of their project too, it's not an easy thing to balance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I don't think the Russian government would literally send hundreds of assassins abroad to kill everyone associated with the project and DDOS their website and whatnot for not complying with an internet censorship request but I see your point

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Who's talking about abroad? Maybe they have peoplke in russia working on the project and they need to check their safety?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Let them be on the wrong side of history lol I simply do not understand people who go out of their way to attack Mozilla/firefox. It’s baffling.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, the sole idea that they accepted this in the first place is a pretty bad sign.. anyway, firefox is still the best option we have

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

They...didn't. As they said, and keeps getting repeated over and over here, they temporarily disabled it while they figured out their options. I'm guessing involving lawyers.

Then they decided.