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And it is! In developed countries. Like here in Europe. I don't have issues buying "organic" tomatoes or "free range" eggs, because they all are (veg only while in season obviously, can't grow shit under snow).
The problem here is not Bezos, it's YOU who do not demand better. Most smaller delivery vehicles here in the UK are fully electric. Our grid is regularly 100% powered by renewables and the amount of hours keeps growing every year. BPA is banned in food packaging. A lot of pesticides and fertilisers used elsewhere are banned. Business parks like Stockley Park have insect hotels and bee hives, as well as dedicated waterbodies for amphibians, etc. Why? Because WE demand it! And you don't. Instead you ban contraception and abortions.
Insufficiently.
It must be a very different kind of Europe than the one I live in.
I live in Germany and regularly encounter such troubles to find ecologically optimal products. Most of the time because there aren't any available for me. Then there is a huge lack of transparency and sometimes of course the price. Although the latter is not really problematic for me, it is for a lot of other people. Those products, which are environmentally detrimental, are usually much cheaper than the ecologically better ones. You are being financially punished for choosing the better alternatives.
Despite the fact that a non-plant based diet is worse than a plant-based one in terms of ecological impact, the industry has been subject to a lot of critique due to insufficient regulations towards the treatment of egg-laying hens. Not only that, but also controls are often not conducted, even though it says so on paper.
Even if we neglect the ecological irresponsible business practises conducted by Bezos & friends, when it comes to individual ecological impact, wealthy people are usually causing a multitude of the damage which is caused by not-that-wealthy individuals. It seems to be a problem inherent to the lifesytle.
That's cool. However, there is more to electric vehicles which must be considered when we think about ecological impact. (Lifetime, resources, production, etc..) Even if that's given, this alone doesn't solve the climate crisis. Although it certainly seems to be a nice step in the right direction.
Regarding the remaining list: that's surely nice to hear. Still, there are still a plethora of unsolved problems. Even in your country.
How about you don't generalise a whole population?
You must have mistaken me with someone from another country. It might help to be less prejudiced.
Insufficiently.
It must be a very different kind of Europe than the one I live in.
I live in Germany and regularly encounter such troubles to find ecologically optimal products. Most of the time because there aren't any available for me. Then there is a huge lack of transparency and sometimes of course the price. Although the latter is not really problematic for me, it is for a lot of other people. Those products, which are environmentally detrimental, are usually much cheaper than the ecologically better ones. You are being financially punished for choosing the better alternatives.
Despite the fact that a non-plant based diet is worse than a plant-based one in terms of ecological impact, the industry has been subject to a lot of critique due to insufficient regulations towards the treatment of egg-laying hens. Not only that, but also controls are often not conducted, even though it says so on paper.
Even if we neglect the ecological irresponsible business practises conducted by Bezos & friends, when it comes to individual ecological impact, wealthy people are usually causing a multitude of the damage which is caused by not-that-wealthy individuals. It seems to be a problem inherent to the lifesytle.
That's cool. However, there is more to electric vehicles which must be considered when we think about ecological impact. (Lifetime, resources, production, etc..) Even if that's given, this alone doesn't solve the climate crisis. Although it certainly seems to be a nice step in the right direction.
Regarding the remaining list: that's surely nice to hear. Still, there are still a plethora of unsolved problems. Even in your country.
How about you don't generalise a whole population?
You must have mistaken me with someone from another country. It might help to be less prejudiced.