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There might not BE a better company. In the system you describe we'd end up with even more strictly defined economic classes, because the wealthy would have the ability to collectively decide policy without interference. You'd just be creating an oligarchy.
The idea is there is no policy, just companies competing for customers and employees and giving them both the best value or the customers and employees would move on to a better company.
Why compete when you can destroy the other companies without restrictions?
Imagine Walmart buys the local water company then cuts water off to their competitors by charging them an exorbitant amount? Or the local power company? What's to stop them?
They can just absorb the local utilities and start intentionally giving their competitors terrible or no service and drive them out of business.
It just turns to feudalism.
Someone else will supply the water and power to the people for a reasonable price and the customers will flock to them.
How would they get the capital together (a massive undertaking) or the equipment together (again a massive undertaking) as Walmart buys up the entire supply chain to provide the pipes and power lines?
Oh you want to hire an electrician for grid work? Walmart won't sell you or rent you the equipment. Want to hire a plumber for grid work? Walmart won't sell you the required equipment to set it up.
Not even that but what's to stop them from corporate espionage? Sabotaging their competitors. "Oh we trap rain water and truck it to people. Lately people have been getting really sick from our water but not Walmarts water."
Again, I’m just exploring alternatives to the current flawed system we have and you’re another person just losing their minds about it.
But their only customer would be the one store Walmart is shutting down. Why would you lay millions of dollars of pipes and more millions of dollars in purification infrastructure just for one money strapped store?
The established supplier would just buy the new competitor. If they don't sell, the established supplier would pricedump and eat the loss, since they're already estabished, until the new competitor agrees to be bought.
Why compete for customers? They could form a monopoly to make sure you need to pay their prices, or just threaten you into only buying their products. Unregulated markets eventually stop being markets.
There wouldn’t be barriers to new companies opening up to compete as there are now.
The current system we use encourages monopolies through the regulations.
Want proof? Look at the monopolies.
There would be the monopolies with private armies and more money than God to shut down new competition. They can lower prices for years to run at a loss locally to run the newcomer out of money, or just do a hostile takeover.
Here I am trying to explore an alternative to our current system and you’re losing your mind over it.
I'm all for clearing roadblocks for startups and small businesses. Why can't you do that wile still making sure markets stay markets not monopolys?
The markets are turning into monopolies with the current system.
It's almost like it's still capitalism dawg.
No it’s capitalism for profits and socialism for losses.
Yeah, so make it easier for competition. And give antitrust actual teeth. There's massive money flowing into the government and campaigns to turn it into the type of no regulations government you're proposing. So we need to fight really hard to actually enforce those regulations so monopolys don't form.
We are consistently adding regulations not removing them.
We're pulling the teeth out of the important ones. Mondern tech monopolies would never have stood in the 50s.
The free market will deal with those problems naturally.
Why? The 'invisible hand'? How would a more free market take down Microsoft or Google or Amazon?
Psst. They're a troll. Just ignore them.
I think they believe it, and I can't get to sleep, so I'll keep them occupied for a bit.
A completely free market would have never let these monopolies form.
How? What regulations caused them to form then? And how would fewer regulations on them bring them down?
There would be less barriers for competition to take market share.
What barriers? I don't know of any regulations on search engines.
The regulations.
What regulations? Could you give any specifics at all? Regulations on search engines?
You edited your comment.
Are you trolling me?
I’m trying to have a friendly conversation with you here.
I just added to it sorry, I sent before I meant to.
Yes regulations for smaller companies have been added. And big companies love that. Eli Lilly wants as many tests required as possible even though it costs them money, because they're better able to afford it than their potential competition.
oh you sweet summer child
Arguing with an ancap is just a waste of time.
Do you want to engage in an actual discussion or just spam meme comments?
You realize you’re basically proving the point of the meme you’re commenting on right now.