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Honestly they probably didn't see him. Visibility from even modern non-shit APCs isn't great, and they're noisy bastards – especially the Soviet shitboxes like MT-LBs
They definitely could not. The MT-LB driver view port is only like 12"x6" and it's angled upwards, so you can't really see anything below the nose, let alone something going under the track.
The real problem we're seeing is the Russian infantry lacks basic esprit de corps. There doesn't seem to be any concern for their comrades, as soon as shit hits the fan it's everyone for themselves.
If this was a combined arms unit with infantry supporting calv units, then the guys should have had buddies to pull him away from the armour.
The other day I saw one of those motorcycle detachments get hit. One of the dismounted units ran to the downed motorcycle unit for what I thought to be aid...... Nope, kicked the guys away from the bike and tried to take off with it.
Exactly so. Even though visibility from MT-LBs isn't great, the problem isn't so much lack of visibility but Russians being Russians
It's better than modern pick up trucks though. Not sure whether this says that the APC should have seen the guy or whether we should just accept pick up truck drivers running people over because they can't be expected to see people lol
I don't know what the visibility from an MT-LB is exactly but chances are it won't be as good as an Abrams, and even if it was it'd still mean that someone lying prone right next to the tracks most likely wouldn't be visible
I know it's still a bit weird it happened