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I don't mind AI being able to do all 4, and humans can use the AI tools to create their own art, or do it without them if they want. But I definitely agree I want manul labour done by robots.
Side note: has this woman never heard of a dishwasher? Minimal manual labour required.
My dishwasher has remote start functionality if I download the app. But what I really need is remote-load functionality.
Honest question: what is the upside of having a remote start functionality on a dishwasher? You have to load the dishwasher before starting, so you need to be at home anyway and it's not like you have to schedule your dishwasher to finish right when you're coming home from work or something. I can't see the benefit.
The benefit is that the dishwasher can be labeled as "smart", be more expensive and can track your activity through the app. Oh, and don't forget about more points of failure and security issues!
Sorry for being bitter, I'm in the process of a kitchen upgrade and find I'm frustrated by the options I have
The dishwasher came with the house, I didn't choose it, but I searched it up at the time. Apparently some people will put in the detergent in the morning, and everyone loads their dishes in all day, then you can start it from bed at night so it's clean in the morning.
Apparently another benefit of WiFi connectivity is that you can get a notification when it's done.
Personally I've never connected it as the benefits don't seem to outweigh the spying.
Dishwasher requires less labour yes. But would be nice with zero labour though.
There are plenty of places without a dishwasher, I just moved from an apartment that didn't have one. Hand washing was a very time consuming chore and we only barely escaped the poverty trap so buying one was out of the question, and if we did, it would be a small portable one because it was just an apartment. I'm not adding value for free to the landlord charging double what would have been barely reasonable in a non-enshittified society.
I would like an AI tool that lets me easily make the art in my mind, skin to how a dishwasher washes dishes. Like, the labor reduction would be a huge boon.
Bingo. The goal is to produce what is in my mind.
A large part of creating art is the process though.
Goes more so for the more physical art forms like traditional painting, sculpting and so on where you have a physical medium that will shape your working process. But even in digital art I feel like you should go through and iterate and let the process shape how the end piece comes out.
Having a program just like translate your brain impulse into a picture feels kinda hollow... it's definitely better than image generators but still, there's a part missing.
If you’re going to throw out random/arbitary bars like this we can’t have a serious discussion.
I didn’t build my cameras. Or write the software. Or construct the lenses. I didn’t do 60% of the work that goes into my shooting video.
See how arbitrary this all is?
Okay, I edited it, sorry my majesty for using an arbitrary number to illustrate a point.
It was a valid objection.
It really was not but I'm sure you believe it was
Later man. Can tell this is not going to be productive.
Yeah if you're going to be just throwing out pointless nitpicks instead of addressing any actual points, it probably won't.
It’s not a pointless nitpick. They are establishing where the line is between “my work” and “not my work” and he said 60% because it’s the first thing their gut told them. How is that nitpicky to point out? I mean come on you can’t be serious. It’s literally the starting point of the discussion. We can’t move forward without it and “60%” tells us nothing.
We can't move forward because you got lazy and decided to harp on a detail that was only included for illustration.
The main point that was made in that paragraph was that the process of making the art itself is a large part, going towards majority of the art itself.
It's like me going "We can't continue this conversation as you used "he" to refer to the OP, how do you know they are a man?"
It's completely pointless, you are being lazy, but I wouldn't expect anyone who has the mindset of "Oh I could do so much cool stuff if I just didn't have to put any effort into it." to do any better.
You have spent more time complaining about my issue with one number than I did pointing it out. It could’ve been over in two comments and we would’ve been back on track. But here we are.
You're the one that keeps complaining about it?
Am I supposed to be making your arguments for you or what?
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Incredible rhetorical strategy, and it only has three easy steps:
Dude ffs it’s over move on christ almighty. Go to work or enjoy your time off or whatever. This is getting so childish.
I'm having fun
I use AI tools to repair audio. Where’s the line between me doing it and computers doing it?
Do you know of any decent guides for getting started please? I've got a load of cassettes from the 90s that I want to fix, and trying to do it manually is slooooowww 😩
What exactly are you trying to do with them? I’d say let me know what you’re currently doing and what you’re trying to achieve. Very happy to help! I actually just finished a pretty huge digitizing project with VHS, DV, and 8mm cassette so this is all very fresh currently lol
Sorry, I missed your reply.
I'm mostly just trying to clean them up. They're old tapes, so they've started to degrade. They have that wavy sort of sound, as if they're playing back at an uneven speed. They've also got random noise in places, so instead of being able to record a sample of noise and remove it from the whole track, I've got to do it manually for sections of the recording.
Apart from the wavy sound it's all straightforward enough, just time consuming
Yeah those are pretty complicated issues. Is it all spoken word? I have a few ideas that might be useful and, more importantly, sweeping/not manual lol. And don’t worry about the delay in the reply!
If you’re comfortable, you could send me a 60s sample that you feel is somewhat representative and I can try one or two things and then show you what I did. There are some pretty amazing automated, straightforward tools that can do a lot in certain situations. Depending on the specifics we may be able to pull off some serious improvements for you.
Thank you :)
These are all music. My father was given a lot of demo tapes when he ran a pub, and I've ended up with them. I thought it would be a nice project to digitise and restore them, then send a copy to the bands. I won't be able to send a clip for the next day or two though.
Whoah that is amazing.
I’m really glad you explained this to me because there are kind of two conversations we need to have. This is also so cool!
I’m going to do the best I can to help you record all of this, so I’m going to focus on capturing them exactly as they are on the tape because that is going to give you the best chance of success.
I have several friends in the preservation space. I think the best move is to get the best, clean recordings we can get and then kick them their way. Obviously they might be interested in the original media, but it’s good to have both and I’m not entirely sure you want to part with them! I’m going to tell them about this situation and see who perks up, I have a feeling there are one or two of them who would be interested in helping you out as a kindness and because they want to explore these lol. But of course I can’t promise anything and if you are not interested in sharing the recordings I know these folks would still be so happy to help you preserve them for yourself and would give good advice.
Do you have an email or something I can reach you at? Happy to give you mine as well, ifthat’s preferred. I have a secondary email I use as a screener for my primary so I’m not worried about some rando causing me problems
Sorry, I missed your reply.
I'm mostly just trying to clean them up. They're old tapes, so they've started to degrade. They have that wavy sort of sound, as if they're playing back at an uneven speed. They've also got random noise in places, so instead of being able to record a sample of noise and remove it from the whole track, I've got to do it manually for sections of the recording.
Apart from the wavy sound it's all straightforward enough, just time consuming
are you using your own knowledge to guide the tool or are you just letting the tool appropriate someone else’s work?
If you’re asking this question you don’t know how most AI audio repair tools work.
if you’re deflecting like this, it means you do …
Yes I do.
Example: noise removal. Noise removal tools identify unwanted frequencies and remove them while preserving wanted ones. This is not stolen audio work from others. No audio is introduced.
AI tools to create art to be exclusively consumed by AI tools? I approve.