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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Well, when they only exist to die for plot points and their only character developent exists to service the convenience of the moment— yeah, clearly these characters are only important as a matter of plot convenience, not as actual people.

It’s cheap, shitty, and shallow. And if you don’t see that for what it is, I feel very bad for you. but I feel worse for all of the LGBTQ audience members who are fooled into thinking that this is progress. It’s fucking trash.

Trek has only evolved from “lgbtq people are invisible” to “lgbtq people are expendable for the sake of ratings”

They only acknowledge us to murder us horribly in order to yank tears.

I AM NOT A PLOT POINT

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

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...Seven of Nine and Rafi got their own command. Stamets and Culber remained a loving couple throughout (apart from Culver's unfortunate temporary death) and adopted a young enby who had their own growth throughout the series while everyone respected their pronouns. Nurse Chapel is a bi woman who withdrew her application to a fellowship at the Vulcan Science Council, essentially telling them "your fellowship ain't ready for *me*".

I wouldn't consider their queer identities to be conveniences or their character arcs to be simple plot points by any stretch of the imagination. retconning Sulu as gay? Maybe. Agender computer genius aliens stealing the ship or a third-gender alien's romantic encounter with Riker? Okay, sure.

But the latest Trek serieses put queer people in space and haven't been using them as lip service or exclusively as minor supporting characters. They've been full-fledged characters whose queer identities the audience was been made aware of and shown that, in the future, the bigots lose because their queerness doesn't define them...it is just a part of who they are. They are masters of their own destinies.

(That being said, as much as I hate the lip service stuff, I do wish they'd have thrown us a bone with Detmer and Owosekun because c'mon...enough queerbaiting already.)

[–] MajorHavoc 1 points 5 months ago

lgbtq people are expendable for the sake of ratings

It certainly felt that way when they killed off (redacted for spoilers, but we all know who). It was cheap, and I'm glad they course corrected.