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He Made a PowerPoint on Mothers Starving in Gaza. Then He Lost His Government Job.
(theintercept.com)
this post was submitted on 01 Jun 2024
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Ah the land of the free
BTW, this is a real violation of free speech... Negative consequences from the government for speaking... Even in the context of your own work responsibility
No, it's not, the governemnt can censor its own workers or speech that its workers make. The government can censor itself.
He didn't even make the speech. Nothing he did could be considered misconduct or insubordination.
A government employee will be censored for the speech that that employee puts out, full stop.
Same way as if that employee put out a hate filled speech about gay people.
True, but in this case he hadn't even put it out at all yet.
Did you even read my comment?
Aside from the correctness of the ruling or this situation. I'm guessing if Citizens United ruled 'money equals speech', then making/distributing a powerpoint probably also will be categorized as 'speech'.
It's a violation of free speech, it's just not a violation of US law. Free speech is not the first amendment.
So Americans only have free speech when the government says it's ok?
I'm mean, I know freedom of speech is a narrower concept than most people realize but if the government can retaliate against you because you would share factual evidence as part of your job, then you guys really don't have freedom of speech
I mean, I guess you guys beat North Korea in this topic and .... That's about it
It's more like when you work for the government, you're allowed to say what in a personal context. Once you start throwing around a title linked to the government, you're no longer speaking as yourself, youre speaking as the government. The government can tell you what the government is allowed to say.
It's the difference between an employee of the coast guard joining Greenpeace vs. That employee publicly saying the United States Coast Guard is joining Greenpeace. The coast guard can't fire an employee for their own political beliefs, but they can totally fire a guy for saying shit the coast guard doesn't want while representing the coast guard. Public speaking and seminars and shit like this have explicit rules about who can say what and when as a government employee in an official capacity.
Free Speech™*
*(Available only for the bourgeoisie ruling class. Terms and conditions may apply)
The US government can not censor speech for private citizens except in extremely limited terms.
This is a government employee communicating on behalf of the government. The government has every right to censor the speech that it puts out.
Also, for what it's worth, the US has much stronger free speech protections than the EU. Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate.