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Despite its name, the infrastructure used by the “cloud” accounts for more global greenhouse emissions than commercial flights. In 2018, for instance, the 5bn YouTube hits for the viral song Despacito used the same amount of energy it would take to heat 40,000 US homes annually.

Large language models such as ChatGPT are some of the most energy-guzzling technologies of all. Research suggests, for instance, that about 700,000 litres of water could have been used to cool the machines that trained ChatGPT-3 at Microsoft’s data facilities.

Additionally, as these companies aim to reduce their reliance on fossil fuels, they may opt to base their datacentres in regions with cheaper electricity, such as the southern US, potentially exacerbating water consumption issues in drier parts of the world.

Furthermore, while minerals such as lithium and cobalt are most commonly associated with batteries in the motor sector, they are also crucial for the batteries used in datacentres. The extraction process often involves significant water usage and can lead to pollution, undermining water security. The extraction of these minerals are also often linked to human rights violations and poor labour standards. Trying to achieve one climate goal of limiting our dependence on fossil fuels can compromise another goal, of ensuring everyone has a safe and accessible water supply.

Moreover, when significant energy resources are allocated to tech-related endeavours, it can lead to energy shortages for essential needs such as residential power supply. Recent data from the UK shows that the country’s outdated electricity network is holding back affordable housing projects.

In other words, policy needs to be designed not to pick sectors or technologies as “winners”, but to pick the willing by providing support that is conditional on companies moving in the right direction. Making disclosure of environmental practices and impacts a condition for government support could ensure greater transparency and accountability.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Claim:

"The Sam Altman fans also say that AI would solve climate change in a jiffy. "

What he said:

"If we spend 1% of the world's electricity training powerful AI, and that AI does figure out how to get (to carbon goals) that would be a massive win, (especially) if that 1% lets people live their lives better.”

Were you just assuming I would take you at your word?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Check my edit in the post above, made over an hour before you posted this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Actually made after I posted that. Why do you keep lying? It's messed up. This is low stakes internet comments.

And no he didn't say what you swore he said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because I'm not lying, you're incapable of looking past the surface of Sam Altman's obviously self serving comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for you, we can actually see edit and post times on comments:

My comment, last edited May 30, 12:29:07 GMT-5.

Your comment, posted May 30, 1:55:04 GMT-5.

So it wasn't an hour before. It was closer to 1.5 hours. You got me.

This isn't just about internet points. You're defending a shithead on the basis of "he didn't say exactly those words", as if context does not exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Keep on lying. Did he say what you said he did? No? Then you lied.