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Hey, fellow Russian agents of lemmy, does anybody wanna form a union?
These working conditions are shit. We have to deal with insufferable liberals repeating the same pro-genocide arguments over and over. Yeah yeah, if we try to strike they could send us all to the front, but tell me honestly - can you really say you fear death after interacting with "vote blue no matter who" people all day?
Honestly, this whole thing seems like a waste of time. How are we supposed to convince Americans to oppose genocide, especially when the victims aren't even white? Like, come on, they didn't have a problem when their government was slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan, they're not gonna suddenly turn into moral actors just because we say the right set of words. When in history have these people ever cared how many foreigners die because of their government's actions?
In conclusion we deserve a raise if we're going to keep dealing with these people and if our bosses decide to shut the whole thing down in response, that's probably for the best because frankly this whole "convince Americans to oppose genocide" thing seems like a complete waste of time.
I’m an American who opposes genocide. What is the best use of my vote in November to reduce genocide in the world?
The best use of your vote in terms of stopping genocide would be to vote for someone who doesn't support genocide.
I’m looking at this imaginary November ballot and the choices are:
I can advocate, vote for better people in primaries, and stuff like that, but I cannot change the choices on the ballot.
Hey, just a heads up, those write ins and third party votes get counted and when parties are planning their platforms they look at how many third party votes they could pick up.
Good thing option 3 exists so you have an option to oppose genocide without changing what's on the ballot.
Is it morally correct to effectively give option 2 (MORE genocide) half a vote just so that I can voice my objections to the status quo? I’m not thrilled with the idea of asking other people to die so that I can avoid voting for an imperfect candidate.
No. I'm confused, what country do you live in that has half-votes? I've never heard of that.
You should give 100% of your vote (votes?) to the non-genocide option. Do not give any percentage of your vote to either pro-genocide option. This isn't that complicated.
Yeah it just sounds so simple. Almost misleadingly so!
And I don’t believe you need the effective half vote thing explained to you.
I plan to use my vote to actually reduce and/or prevent genocide and other bad things as much as I can. Like real effects in the real world. If I vote for a third party candidate that stands on firmer moral ground (and who will never have to actually make those decisions), and that choice helps in any small way to get Trump elected, then there are many more people who will suffer and die. It is for those people that I can step outside the realm of idealism and vote for the lesser evil. Because like I saw in another comment, choosing the lesser evil does mean less evil in the world.
I don’t have to be happy about it or excited to do it. But when looking at the practical cause and effect of the voting choices, I only see one ethical option for myself.
You aren't reducing or preventing genocide by voting for someone in the process of supporting a genocide.
If your conscience tells you that it's acceptable to support a side that's committing genocide because it's enemies do it too, then there's not much I can say except that my original point stands: my Russian bosses should give me a raise or give up on this whole thing because convincing Americans to oppose genocide is an exercise in futility.
Nothing changes through compliance. If people don't oppose it, it won't ever stop. You know that as well as I do.
You’re disinformationing wrong
Meaning I'm providing correct information?