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Free speech being stifled by the Liberals. They're more and more like the far right every day.
Explain to the class how exactly you think the concept of "free speech" applies to the leader of a foreign country looking to butter up our elected officials. He can go on Fox "news" if he wants a willing audience.
The US Congress is inviting someone to speak before them. An active effort to undermine and subvert that is unquestionably stifling free speech.
The speaker*
Yeah, they won't let me give a speech to Congress either. They're stifling MY free speech too.
What's that? That's not what free speech means?
Yes, putting together a campaign to stop someone who has been invited to speak before Congress from doing so is absolutely stifling of free speech.
THAT'S NOT WHAT FREE SPEECH IS!!!
It only means literally only one thing: the government isn't allowed to punish you for saying something.
That's literally it. No one is being punished. Bibi can say whatever depraved shit he wants to anyone who will listen, it just turns out that it's not Congress.
You "free speech" literally don't even understand the very basic thing you build your lives around. Less brain cells than an orange tabby.
You're showing your lack of comprehension here. I never said said they're violating the Constitution. If that's how you're interpreting this, that's just ridiculous..
I said they're stifling. Free speech which is exactly what they're trying to do.
Sure, if you change the definition of words then you'll never be wrong. Of course when YOU said "free speech" you didn't mean the commonly understood, legally defined term that people use when the government oppresses its citizens by restricting their ability to speak out against it. You meant some arbitrary broader concept that includes Bibi coming over and explaining why opposing genocide is anti-Semitism directly to Congress. As if any foreign agent has, or should have the right to address the government anytime they want.
I wonder what word you'll redefine next to not be wrong.
If I were him, I'd try to redefine "redefine".
Hah, checkmate atheist.
Ooh....ooh..."'moving the goalposts' means giving your opponent another shot at a field goal".
No one needs to change the definition when you're working overtime to twist what I'm saying. I never said you needed to be arrested for violating the Constitution. I'm pointing out the clear and obvious fact that Free speech before they make hunger so it is being stifled..
That you're supporting this just shows how fascist the claimed progressives have become in America.. if you're afraid of someone speaking then challenge them with ideas. Don't shut them down. I get that's what you're taught to do on campus now, but that's not an effective way to deal with someone or something you disagree with.
Absolutely not! You may have a right to speak but you have no right to an audience. Just because someone wants to talk it doesn't mean I have to "challenge their ideas". I can just not listen. And if they want to come speak in my house I can trespass them. That's what the Democrats are doing.
You can speak, but no one needs to listen. Some ideas don't deserve the respect of a challenge. Anything Bibi wants to say right now is easily in that range.
Yes you can. Just not listen. That's a very good point. Not listening is very different from scuttling the invitation provided by the speaker of the house.
Not really. Either way you're not listening. In one case you're not listening as a group.
You ever get tired of shilling for genocide?
"Freedom of Speech" is not "Freedom to get a free soapbox anywhere you feel like whenever you feel like".
In your version, anybody in the World has a right to address Congress whenever they feel like, in which case it should be first come first served and Netanyahu can join the line just everybody else (as giving priority to some would interfere in everybody else's "Freedom").
No one is saying free speech is giving the entire world a soapbox wherever they want .
We're talking about someone who has been invited by the speaker of the House to speak in front of Congress. This isn't any random person on a soapbox. This is the speaker of the House of Representatives making an official US government invitation to an ally. Undermining that is absolutely stifling Free speech.
I'm sorry but Free Speech is exactly about anybody, a.k.a. random, persons having a freedom, and there is no mention about "allies" or any other special groups having any more right to it than anybody else exactly because you can't have one Freedom for some and a different Freedom for others: Free it's for everybody, otherwise it's not Free, it's Controlled.
You claim this is a Free Speech matter and then your entire argument is about speech for some people controlled by an invitation of a specifica person, the very opposite of Free.
As I said, if Congress should be treated as a Free Speech space then ANYBODY has a right to go there and speak (and Netanyahu can join the queue), if only some people are allowed to go there, controlled by an invitation by a specific person, then it's not Free Speech, it's about a space with access limited by rules, be it to speak or something else, so it's about Congressional Rules and your entire "argument" is total bollocks.
You can't try and bypass the rules by claiming it's all about Free Speech at the very same time you want it for just this one person just this one time - that's just complete total hypocrisy.
Sure, you've convinced me, anyone that the speaker of the house thinks deserves that platform should have it then, ally or not.
That you think limiting the ability of people to speak before Congress, isn't stifling free speech is beyond absurd.
Why don't you just give Bibi a nice reach-around, and leave the rest of us out of it?
I'm hardly concerned with who's the one giving the speech and entirely concerned with the fact the Democratic party is working overtime to stifle Free speech before the American Congress.
A congressional campaign to stop an invited speaker from speaking is absolutely stifling free speech.
I don’t give a fuck what you have to say and I’m not going to listen to you if you say it, and I’m certainly not going to let you walk into my house and spew your bullshit genocidal lies.
There, did I stifle your free speech? No, I didn’t.
It’s no different from what these congresspeople are doing. To say nothing of the fact that Netanyahu isn’t a fucking US citizen so the bill of rights doesn’t apply to him anyway
Yes, you're exactly proving my point. You're running away and hiding from people who don't align with your thinking. That doesn't help society. It just puts you further and further into your Echo chamber.
Undermining The US government by scuttling an invited speaker is absolutely stifling Free speech whether you care or not.
Ah right, because allowing fascists a platform to lie to people has worked out sooooo goddamn well in recent history.
Keep licking those boots bud.
Because allowing the speaker of the house to platform an ally who the American people are funding is exactly what the American people deserve.
But instead of having the capacity to listen to a conflicting opinion, people are losing their minds like the choken headed morons they are.
Good point, we should stop giving that fucking mooch money while we’re at it.
If Congress decides to stop sending Israel after he speaks to them, then that's something that the American people will have to live with. Including the increase in terrorism and the decrease in American jobs that would come along with it.
choken headed morons?
you're such a fucking waste of oxygen.
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Whatever, go fuck yourself, you fuckin Nazi
The classic Anti-Semitic Holocaust inversion. LMFAO. You bigots are so predictable, the Elder's of Zion is about to become a Best Seller again based on your kind.
Choke to death on Bibi's cock, you fucking Nazi.
Classic Holocaust inversion Anti semitism. Y'all are just so predictable. Can't handle reality so you revert to your classic tropes.
Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Not wanting people to speak before Congress is STIFLING FREE SPEECH but banning books, drag shows, certain religions in school, protests, pronouns, tribal modifiers and minority hairstyles is NOT!
Of course they are. Where do you find me saying otherwise?