this post was submitted on 25 May 2024
883 points (98.8% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
9 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 106 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully it less hormonal side affects than the female pill. But yeah having an extra level of protection will be nice.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 months ago (34 children)

“Extra Level”? It's more about taking the burden off the women for me. Why do they, and only they, always have to mess up their bodies?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago

Obviously it depends on the relationship and how risk averse you both are. But yeah why not both? Seems like a pretty good way to be really sure!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (5 children)

You can already do that with condoms and no one is messing up their body...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Condoms would be 99% effective if they could be made idiot-proof.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sucks you're being down voted, I mean maybe saying "idiot-proof" isn't nice but comprehensive sex ed should cover helping those with a noodle understand how to find ones that fit comfortably and what main causes there are for breakage n whatnot. I'm currently having that discussion with my sex buddy, and I can't tell you the amount of times I've had people try to coerce me into letting them go raw dog in the past. Like keep in mind I'm in a state that has not only criminalized abortion but is defunding all planned parenthoods now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's the Internet.

People downvote a lot of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Like keep in mind I'm in a state that has not only criminalized abortion but is defunding all planned parenthoods now.

Bummer.

2/3 of the states will follow in another year. That's what happens when we elect people no matter how badly they do their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I'm not voting for this scum, but yeah, we'll see. Hoping it'll make it to the ballot so the people can actually vote to amend the state constitution like others have. The people may be dumb at electing Representatives, but get a straight forward measure up for vote and the people seem to follow through in correcting it.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

The hippocratic oath, in this case. Medicine is all about risk management, the worse the "disease," the more tolerant we are of side effects for the cure. Pregnancy and birth are still pretty traumatic events that, while much safer than they used to be, are still dangerous. Female BC just has to be less risky than that. Male BC on the other hand, has to be as low the risk for a man impregnating a woman, which is to say, almost zero. Pretty much any negative side effect is worse than that, so it's very difficult to pass. I would gladly take one with comparable side effects to female BC, but sometimes unflinching ethics are inconvenient. Better than the alternative, but still.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Somehow, we manage to accept organ transplants despite it hurting one healthy person a little to help an unhealthy person a lot. What's stopping us from treating birth control the same way?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's medical ethics, not the Hippocratic Oath. Most doctors swear to an ethical standard. Besides, "first, do no harm" is a bit unhelpful if you're a surgeon.

Otherwise you're right, the risks of pregnancy outweigh the side effects of birth control, which is why birth control for women doesn't have as high a standard for mitigating other consequences.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

we can finally share the load and mess up everyone because of not affording babies!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

yeah, not wanting 10 children is a matter of cost, of course. It's baffling to me how unreflected and naive opinions regarding reproduction still are...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right? I'm at the point where I can't possibly fathom the thought process of bringing a child into this world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I've got one, but I wouldn't want another one every year, and I certainly would not want to stop having fun times with the wife either...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

i was half joking but i use contraceptives because i cant afford one.

i'm not even thinking about 10 and never will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

share the load

Sorry. I’m a child.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If only your dad had had this pill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You seem nice.

load more comments (30 replies)