this post was submitted on 19 May 2024
506 points (97.0% liked)

Technology

58303 readers
6 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 192 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Please, remember to vote on the European elections! We do need the EU to keep taking actions like this

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago

As an American, please vote. Our country is owned by the corporations, at least yours can bring them to heel sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago

:`-( I miss voting in the European elections! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺💪

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (6 children)

What parties should we vote for to make sure they keep protecting consumers?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Volt wants:

To make digital rights binding. They call for a "Declaration on European Digital Rights and Principles".

Tax revenues from digital technologies where they are generated.

Guarantee net neutrality and reject contradictory laws.

Enact laws against the unethical use of AI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How does taxing revenue from digital technology where it's generated work?

Can you explain what that means for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When you buy something, the seller pays a VAT tax (something about 17% to 23% of your purchase, depending on the country).

If I'm a French company and I sell something to a customer in Finland (we would be both in the EU) taxes would be paid in either France or Finland (it depends on the kind of thing I'm selling and the kind of customer).

If I understand correctly, they want to tax digital services in the place where the work is actually generated. So, in France.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Correct. Amazon for example: everything that is sold via Amazon in Europe is taxed in Ireland. Even if a product which is available on Amazon is produced in France, stored in a French Amazon warehouse and shipped to a French customer. Just because it's possible, they pay the reduced taxes in Ireland for such a deal. That needs to be fixed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ahh now I understand the reasoning, and I completely agree.

To be fair, some things are already taxed in the place where work is created, regardless of the company headquarters. E.g. event tickets (VAT is always applied in the country where the event is taking place)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

anything but the right-wing ones.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depends on you country, but the right wing one are usually not the ones that are so pro-regulation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If north America & Australia's biggest exports start having effect they will be very pro-regulation. Just pro-regulatory-capture.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

As left as you can. I'd recommend something less extreme if proto-fascists aka liberals had not lied to us for decades.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Discard the Brownshirts, their collaborators, and the Putin fluffers, and you probably won't have many choices left.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

And thieves. Usually also some of the 3 you mentioned, but sometimes just that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

European elections have this advantage that the morons don’t even go to vote nor know what is going on.
It’s the sole reason why is it going so good, obfuscation. Anything outside of the country is too much too grasp for the rightists.

There’s some kind of deep moral to this and I am not sure it is a good one

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think that's true at all.

When the UK was in the EU, UKIP was their largest party. For France, Le Pen's National Front party was the largest. And they aren't alone. There's a number of right wing EU parties.

And it's due to get worse, if we bring data into it. Many countries in the EU are swinging to the right. Polling is indicating right wing parties will have a solid majority in the EU parliament this year.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well it’s true where I live. Those elections are seen as unimportant and not many care and even skip them with a tendency for more… intellectually, EU versed ppl to vote

25% attendance in eu elections vs 45% for country parliament. Most recent elections improved 40 to 65

As I said the moral of this story isn’t pretty

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think those politicians don't really bother going to the parliament and mostly cash the checks in, but it's just a guess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah these people love imposing their BS on people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Well the ones from France don't seem to do much, maybe the other ones are worse