tiredturtle

Yea muricans are always a good example of the lot. Thanks for discussing and taking part in the philosophical pondering, it's not usual here!

Isn't it great when the bourgeoisie chat about how they control us as cattle

It's not a metaphor relating to those. You can substitute the apple for anything you like, the fruit is not a relevant object. It just carries similar properties. They can be called 'Notexistilandia', 'United Territories of Nowhereon' or 'Countrystan'. Whatever helps.

You're very close with Chomsky and people not knowing!

What I mean is that the mystical prophecies of one true holy and pure — despite the evidence, like we've discussed, rely much on faith, instead of (and sometimes contrary) to knowledge. And general populations "knowledge", fooled, propagandized is just that — much closer to faith.

More Chomsky:

I think irrational belief is a dangerous phenomenon, and I try to consciously avoid irrational belief. On the other hand, I certainly recognize that it’s a major phenomenon for people in general, and you can understand why it would be. It does, apparently, provide personal sustenance, but also bonds of association and solidarity and a means for expressing elements of one’s personality that are often very valuable elements. To many people it does that. In my view, there’s nothing wrong with that. My view could be wrong, of course, but my position is that we should not succumb to irrational belief.

Idealistic nationalist supremacy is just a form of religion.

You misunderstood. I'm taking your word as is.

Government propaganda is good to realize!

Let's say we have a basket of apples. The world's most powerful apples. And they all look rotten and diseased, we know the reasons which make them rotten, it's peer reviewed and considered a fact.

So then we make a leap of faith. What if despite evvvvvvveeeerrrything, this one apple is actually pure and holy. And only a few know this for sure and they're not letting anyone else know the proof.

That's very wonderful but, kinda sketchy at the same time?

Modded as misinfo, worth to check the modlog... There were no links to any fake news sites nor information commented, just a realization that apparently all reports of even different cases can't possibly have any truth to them.

Trump's lawsuits could be an allegory. There's so many of them and similarly all of them have to be fake I guess. No fire where there's smoke

Very convenient. Maybe you're a chosen one and nobody else can't figure out that light flows in aether. Thanks!

Global press really. It's been fascist ever since everywhere

Tsar was gone by something like the purges in 30s

Yea lol, every other day it's that "collapse imminent" and every other time it's "turning around and winning everything"

The Red Scare is a more like side goal because communism threatens oligarchies. The Soviet Union also had its hand in persecuting communists.

And during the prohibition, black market flourished. The business will always be there. The question is do you support organized crime or do you support taxing to cover harm reduction and safety for people (buying from non-criminal sources, tested product etc)

Currently your stance is to provide money for organized crime