thatfuckinglinuxguy

Not saying I disagree with you but you can imagine how strongly I feel about snaps being utter garbage then ;-)

I don’t think that really justifies a lot of the comments I’m seeing in Reddit alternatives threads that it’s hard to figure out.

Haven't been back there and didn't read the comments...

But I think I can understand to a degree:

• Too many choices: Picking an instance can be confusing for folks that are used to only having to remember 1 name. I personally think this is a bit like people trying Linux for the first time and getting confused by all the choices available. Basically, it's what some people call "analysis paralysis" but add to that the fact that you'll get 12 different recommendations from every 10 people you all (e.g. there's no clear consensus on the "best" one bc "best" means something different to each person). I think one list I saw on GitHub literally had over 200 instances... For non-techies, I could see that being a bit confusing
• UI differences: some things like making a post on kbin are a bit different (IMO not bad but still different enough that I could see some folks getting confused). Doing searches on lemmy for specific topics (not finding communities but searching for something in a community) is done from a different area on lemmy than on Reddit and IMO is kind of a pain in the ass currently. And on kbin, frankly, I'm not even sure we have that feature at all.
• Missing features: haven't tried mobile apps (which could again be another point of confusion) but for desktop at least, AFAIK we don't have anything comparable to RES yet. There's no analog to multireddits. And we don't have anything similar to reddit's Saved feature yet. All valid complaints in my opinion. And someone used to any or all of those, might spend a lot of time looking bc they just don't know if it's hidden or does not exist. So, yeah, I could see so confusion there too.

I think there are a lot of advantages they're probably missing too. I like that kbin/lemmy we can choose whatever fucking avatar we want instead of being limited to customizing our snoz or wtf Reddit calls their mascot thing. I saw one guy mentioning how there's no karma bullshit to deal with for new accounts and absolutely agree with that sentiment.

tealdeer; meh, I like the fediverse and it's not hard for me but I'm not shitting on people who don't get it. If they want help, would probably help but not going to push it on people either. It is what it is and that's good enough for me

If you mean, does it delete your data... Not exactly. IIRC when you delete your account it disassociates your comments and your screen name (e.g. your comments remain but it shows as [deleted] instead of your s/n). But doesn't actually "delete" your data. What I mean is that in their databases, likely they still retain your email address/screen name/ip address/browsing history/etc, even if you take the time to delete comments and posts before you delete the account.

But more importantly, I don't believe that OP is entirely correct (last line is wrong) either. Doing this just requests a report on what data they have about you. It does not say anywhere that they will get rid of the data. As to whether or not you can request the report after deleting your account... I have no idea. Possibly but I would imagine they would make the excuse to say they can't though.

Pretty sure the last line of image is not correct anyway: AFAIK doing this doesn't wipe your data; it requests Reddit to compile a report on all the data they have on you. It does still waste time of the employees, which spez/Reddit ultimately have to pay for... But doesn't do fuckall for removing data unfortunately. At least that was the impression I got from reading their page on it and googling.

Would love if it did... I already deleted all my comments and posts (the hard way... over the course of many bathroom breaks) but I still don't like them having ip logs and browsing history which I can guarantee you that they keep. And AFAIK they are under no legal obligation to delete that kind of data, especially for users in the US, but I think even for Europe, ip address/email/browsing history/screen name would not be considered as personal identifying information (pii) in most cases and probably no way to force them to get rid of it, unless you're some kind of 1337 h4x0r dude.

Press F to say "Fuck u/spez" ? lol

That said, if distros included default .vimrc files that were geared more towards modern newbies (since us old farts can probably figure out how to customize things easier than they can)... probably, we wouldn't hear about so many newer Linux users preferring nano

Who wants to write and test the code patches? ...

::silence so pure that it is almost a sound in itself::

If you are referring to this

I wouldn't mind one bit if kbin/beehaw were defederated from each other

then, unless you have some insider knowledge, I think you may be mistaken. kbin and beehaw are not defederated ... at least not yet.

federated = joined in an alliance, e.g. linked

defederated = not federated, e.g. blocked / censored / not linked

source: https://beehaw.org/instances

Linked Instances

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• kbin.social

I find it a bit ironic how so many people are pointing out how "growing is important to federation" specifically in reference to this... but at the same time, beehaw are one of the few sites that are against growth (as can bee seen by their requiring to get approved in order to join their server... which IMO is no better or worse than tilde's invite requirement)... and, given the timing, it would seem that they are against hosting reddit refugees in particular.

Yes, you can claim it is for keeping beehaw's site stable or curating users or plenty of other more palatable reasons. But at the end of the day, you are still turning users away. I have a lot of respect for kbin not closing its doors to new users, despite the load it is placing on their infrastructure.

Personally, I wouldn't mind one bit if kbin/beehaw were defederated from each other (not advocating for it, just saying I wouldn't care whatsoever if it happened on its own)

Agreed. Indexing helps a LOT for discovery both of new content and old answers alike ... Would love to see kbin start showing up in search results instead of Reddit when trying to find answers to technical issues...

Meme is just a repost so I'm not offended or anything (not that I would be even if it was OC)... but are you maybe seeing "centralization" in the sense of "popularity" instead of "control"? (I agree that the choice of words in the meme could have been better...) - Anyway, even if you are, no worries. I was just curious.

I think the original creator was probably more pointing out how with snap, it is next to impossible to create another app store because the source code for the backend is closed source.

While with flatpak it is fully open-source so anyone who wishes to create a new store can do so. Yes, fighting against what's popular has always been an uphill battle and that would be the case here also. But there would be no technological or legal roadblocks to doing so.

At least, that's how I understood it

Disclaimer: I generally prefer native packages over flatpaks/appimages myself. I pretty much refuse to even consider using snaps, for variety of reasons, unless they both open-source the backend code and make some other changes to address other pet peeves I have with the project. I'm not holding my breath though.

Discord seems like its gonna be the true reddit successor.

Not disagreeing that the masses will likely flock to it due to brand recognition and such ...

But man does that make me sad too... Really hate how locked down Discord is in comparison (like you can't even browse content without a login and using from the browser is painful compared to using a client). Add in their past (and possibly present) privacy issues and the fact that like Reddit, they are also a centralized site run by another greedy company and I feel like this is yet another recipe for disaster (albeit one that might take awhile to fully materialize)