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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I thought letbane was not bad. What issues are you referring to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you would demolish all the other options, then it would de facto do just that. But nobody has even suggested the kind of baffoonery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tram can have both, even on a single line.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Have you actually ever seen the tram network in North Rhine and Westphalia, Germany? Also in many places in the world the replacement of trams by buses has been since seen as a mistake and there are plenty of examples of extensive new trams networks introduced and in planning in cities where they got rid of them in 1960s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Most tram systems aim for 5 - 7.5 minute frequency on trunk lines during peak hours. Usually induced demand works here if it's more convenient than sitting in a car. Busses quite often are a little unreliable when it comes to any kind of attempts to schedule even with dedicated lanes, since they spend more time at the stops loading and unloading passengers and you need more of them compared to trams. Then there's an argument to be made about public mass transportation: It should provide a service that is good for the city and the people and in a well designed system subsidies aren't going to waste even if you're unable to measure any profit. Ridership and travel patterns matter the most. Not all rail is equal either. The available options are from cheap (which is not same as bad) to expensive: from tram systems on street level to "heavy" rail in tunnels. The tram is very versatile and often the most affordable way of providing reliable service when combined with busses on lines where the demand is really low. If you need a bus more often than once every ten minutes and/or they're packed to the brim during rush hours you probably should think about ditching the fears of "overbuilding" and start planning for more capacity and frequency with a tram line. In your country this might be different but in most developed countries the drivers are not unsignificant expense and trams reduce the amount of drivers needed, they have lower power consumption compared to buses and are mostly more reliable than buses. Also the ridership usually prefer a tram if the option is provided and it's not super slow (which is rare). Then again, if it's built in the right place -> induced demand.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

We've even got them in Finland and we only have two cities with a tram network. Otherwise I've seen them a lot in Germany and newer systems tend to have them more often than older ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's also beneficial for users of the systems, most of which are non-investors, that the lines do not change ever so often and the stops don't vanish or move several hundred meters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Totta tuokin, että tällä on merkitystä vähänlaisesti yksittäisenä asiana. Mutta osana kokonaisuutta ja Junnilan historian tietäen voisi vähän tarkemmin haravoida kuin vain todeta, että "tässä saattaa olla jotain flirttailua" ja ottaa pääministeriltä vastaus, että "kyllä nyt torutaan vähän", sekä Junnilalta "no, tämähän on vain tällainen harmiton vitsi". Piiloviestejä ko. tyypiltä on tullut vuosikausia, ja vasta hiljattain tyyppi on muuttunut vähän varovaisemmaksi näiden kanssa.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Thank Joulupukki for that. Phew. :D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Now, what one considers free is political. You cannot decouple reality from politics, and the free software movement is just one very specific example how political this really is. It's also these communities that generate politival movements that you may see as unrelated to the pieces of software in question.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Outside the US this no longer has to be political, is probably more what it really is.

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