christiansocialist

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And cuz he's an aThEiSt

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, those who are lead to reactionary figures is irregardless of dating someone.

That seems essentialistic.

Not to mention so many of these people that complain about this are below 22, at which dating is viewed as uncommon among most of the normal population anyway

??? What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Think weight classes in boxing and the ranking of within them. It doesn't need to be so

Yeah like Street Fighter. Which of course the Gamer(TM) types have no problem with when they play with a girl character... But put a trans woman in there an all of a sudden they explode.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (16 children)

They just need to combined all sports and make them genderless. In cases like boxing just go by weight class, since they do that for men and women's leagues anyways.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point the word incel has basically multiple meanings. It can be a legitimate state of being (in fact the person who came up with the term was a woman) or a knee-jerk insult. It's basically just like the term tankie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I know who he is. He actually had trouble with women even though he had backstage passes as a writing for rolling stone magazine. It wasn't until after he learned the dating skills that he was able to be better with women.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

This whole struggle session has made it crystal clear that the west is pretty much guaranteed to descend into fascism. A lot of people basically seem to knee-jerk dismiss concerns people have about being in the friend zone, and without a legitimate leftist response to this, tons of alienated young men are going to find their way to reactionary figures and basically become the foot soldiers of fascism. There needs to be more concrete help for these alienated guys other than saying "it's all capitalism's fault that you feel that way" or saying "oh you even mention the friend zone? tHaT mEaNs YoU'rE aN iNcEl!" I mean yes capitalism has really alienated us and commodified dating but that's not gonna help the lonely guy who gets rejected all the time other than in an intellectual way. Also telling him that "you should just be content with life" is also not helpful either. I mean yeah you can be all Buddhist about it but would you say that to other disenfranchised people as well? "Hey sorry about the discrimination but it's better to just be content with life." Is this what an AES nation would do? Sounds like some idealist western shit rather than a principled materialist approach that takes into account the realities on the ground. The USSR industrialized, developed, and got rid of cyclical famines. China lifted millions out of poverty. They didn't just say "it's capitalism's fault that you're homeless" and then just leave it at that, they actually did concrete stuff. There needs to be concrete action done to deal with this issue other than mockery/dunking or simple platitudes like "hey just be yourself and be content."

Anyways, like I've said before, the west is doomed.

amerikkka amerikkka-clap

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sure there was some there but it was mostly just guys who had gotten rejected a lot trying to figure out how to be more confident, dress better, and learn how to talk to women. Later on people started to mix politics in with it (i.e. "women are only like this cuz of feminism, liberalism, etc.")

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To my fellow guys, there is nothing more pathetic than being an "orbiter" that stays friends with a women in the vague hope that they change their minds and want a romantic relationship with you.

yes-chad

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've been flamed for comments that get widespread support a few weeks later.

Looks like that happened in this very thread lol. I see comments now that basically mirror what I said earlier in the thread's history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like the idea of a dating coach.

That's essentially what the PUAs from the 2000s were. It was only towards the end of the 2000s and the early 2010s that you started to see that stuff morph into the "manosphere" and "red pill" stuff you see today.

 

A very detailed talk from a distinguished professor of political science at the University of Chicago. A longer talk but super informative, with data and charts and historical timelines that you can check yourself. For a shorter summary, see here: https://hexbear.net/post/347083.

 

Must watch for any non-hexbear and lemmygrad instance users that are looking for a better explanation as to what lead to the Ukraine conflict. Spread it far and wide!

For a longer, more detailed analysis, see this video: https://hexbear.net/post/347122

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