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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

And then everyone clapped.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

He did way fucking more than repeating a lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You tried to pass of studies on immigrant crime rates as illegal immigrant crime studies and got caught.

Are you going to catch me breathing next? Like I already said, this point is irrelevant, as you have yet to prove a difference in rates between immigrants and undocumented immigrants.

Adding prisoners to the rate that were not added initially. They’re correcting the rate.

No, they're adding prisoners to the rate only for one group. They're fucking up the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Texas’ crime data only counts illegal aliens who have already been caught and fingerprinted by the Department of Homeland Security.

So what?

You couldn’t provide sources to back up your claim now you make new claims and instead of backing them up you ask that I do.

No, you made an implicit claim that there is a difference in crime rates between immigrants and undocumented immigrants. Support it.

illegals commit murders at a 30% higher rate then the rest of the population. 4 of your 5 studies showed legal immigrants had lower crime rates than the rest of the population.

https://cis.org/Report/Misuse-Texas-Data-Understates-Illegal-Immigrant-Criminality

Crazy, it's almost like adding prisoners to the count increases the rates. Go with something peer reviewed next time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please show me where I said we should be racially profiling people at airports, invading foreign countries, forcibly converting people to christianity, and killing civilians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (11 children)

The PNAS study you cited has the same flaw, it’s using Texas data for illegal immigrant status.

How is that a flaw? Texas is very much involved in this issue.

... study about immigration and crime not illegal immigration

Prove to me that there any significant difference in crime rates between documented immigrants and undocumented immigrants (beyond the occasional misdemeanor of illegal entry that half the time isn't even always a part of this).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This comment chain wasn't intended to discuss the article. It is to discuss the pervasive shittyness of the sources around here. My other comment in this thread was for the article itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nor should it be. Sweden doesn’t tax wealth.

Wealth is always revelant. If the rich hoarding all the wealth, then the rest of us starve/become homeless/lose our possessions/etc.

If Bezos went BK, Do you think we should give a refund when his stock goes down in value?

Stocks should exist in the first place. They only serve to distribute wealth to the rich, and to those who spend their lives making speculative investments (ie producing nothing of value, and siphoning wealth from the economy).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (13 children)

MEDIA ALERT: Time to roll out the fake studies on low immigrant crime!

The one-man factory producing these studies is Alex Nowrasteh of the libertarian Cato Institute. (Take our country, just don’t raise taxes.) He fudges the data, slaps a false title on his report, and journalists copy his work like they’re Claudine Gay writing a thesis.

It is absolutely hilarious that the Cato institute is getting called out for 'shitting out bad studies' by fellow conservatives.

Setting aside that, this article portrays all of the studies are coming from one person. But that's not the case.

Literally just pulling off the top results from google scholar:

https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=JaGRGfauOG8C&oi=fnd&pg=PA385&dq=immigrant+crime+rates+vs+citizen+crime+rates&ots=SWy7CXct8S&sig=VB7zBvzFoHYVMjz9Dpg4J-Tbxlo#v=onepage&q=immigrant%20crime%20rates%20vs%20citizen%20crime%20rates&f=false

https://www.ojp.gov/criminal_justice2000/vol_1/02j.pdf

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/(SICI)1520-6688(199822)17:3%3C457::AID-PAM4%3E3.0.CO;2-F

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0022427818799125

These are authored by different people, and they all come to more or less the same conclusion, that immigrants have lower crime rates than the existing population.

I take issue with your article's interpretation of the studies by Nowrasteh, but in the end I don't care enough to go over that when there are plenty of other studies confirming the same result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can’t represent multiple companies simultaneously, you should look up feduciary responsibilities.

And the law doesn't always reflect reality.

Just admit you’re lazy and/or couldn’t find a source supporting your insane claims. The 1st step to improving as a person is to take responsibilities for your actions.

With you? Nah. It's not worth the effort. Next time try to be honest about what I an saying and maybe I'll put in the effort.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Correct. It is a quote from the site owner, Ann Coulter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

How much longer are these shitty sources gonna be allowed around here?

"Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

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