Noughmad

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[–] Noughmad 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

no one is defending Putin, the US set the stage for the invasion

That has to be the shortest contradiction.

[–] Noughmad 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For one, you've got it mixed up which side is wearing the Nazi insignia and celebrating Nazi collaborators and enthusiastic participants in the Holocaust.

I don't know, which side are Wagner and Rogozin on?

For another, the USSR turned the war around in 1943. It would make no sense to call for armistice when you're winning. Ukraine is currently stalled and bleeding manpower and materiel. The counteroffensive is all but done, were it not for Western insistence that fighting continues to the last Ukrainian.

USSR was just as stalled in early 1943, bleeding manpower and materiel, getting massive war supplies from the USA, and the West was insisting that fighting continues to the last Russian. Sounds familiar?

[–] Noughmad 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Most of us favor an immediate armistice along the present LOC

This is uncritically supporting the Z operation. It rewards the attacker and gives them absolutely no reason to not try again in 10 years (either in the same country or in another one). It's also what happened in 2014 and you see the results of that now.

Would you favor an immediate armistice with the Nazis in 1943? I surely hope not, but that would be a quick peace, very much like what the advocate for now.

[–] Noughmad 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Which is why they all voted to stay in the moment they got the right to vote on it. Right?

[–] Noughmad 1 points 2 years ago

You're thinking of communists or socialists. They are the ones who talk about theory and praxis.

Tankies are the "the cruelty is the point" gang - don't care about theory, workers rights, or anything else, and only use it to justify wars.

[–] Noughmad 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

nor an offensive organisation responsible from bombing innocent working people

Weird that you mention this. I assume you mean NATO, because there is another organization responsible for bombing innocent working people right now, as well as taking the working people of their own country and sending them to die. Why is criticism reserved only for the one that did not start the current war?

banderite state

Can you show in what way is Ukraine more right-wing than Russia?

[–] Noughmad 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

That's what I thought too, but somehow there is a "600 page report on the contents of Hunter Biden's laptop" on their front page.

Like I said, they call themselves leftists, but everything there is only anti-Biden, anti-NATO and anti-Ukraine. Nothing about republicans pushing for child labor, for example, which should be the most important priority for a pro-workers group.

[–] Noughmad 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Oh how I wish that was true. Unfortunately I've seen far too many people support Russia in this war, both offline and online, including here.

Maybe I'm wrong about hexbear, I certainly hope that I am, but on lemmygrad I saw long posts with many upvotes explaining how this war is a good thing and Putin is a hero that is fighting against the capitalists etc.

Edit: and now lemmygrad had Hunter's laptop on the front page. Could they be any more obvious?

Edit2: lol, you almost had me believing that I was wrong and just too paranoid. Then in this very thread I got two people from hexbear telling me how NATO and Ukraine are evil, heavily upvoted. Still nothing bad about either Trump or Putin. Thanks.

[–] Noughmad 102 points 2 years ago (66 children)

Yeah, you can call yourself a leftist all you want, but when 90% of your posts is calling Biden and Zelensky Nazis but you never criticize Putin or Trump, I get certain doubts.

[–] Noughmad 37 points 2 years ago

Just more proof that it was never about mRNA.

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