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even if you CAN rely solely on vision, why hamstring yourself?

Their stance is that by using lidar OEMs are hamstringing themselves on solving vision because they are so reliant on it. They spend less time and resources perfecting vision so they never truly solve the problem. From their perspective you got it backwards.

and there’s no good reason… just add extra sensors

The more sensors you deal with, the more your attention gets divided. You aren't laser focused on one thing.

The extra sensors also cost a lot of money, you can't put waymo's sensor package onto millions of cars that consumers can buy when the suite is 10s of thousands of dollars (and originally well over 100k).

By focusing on vision where the system can be put onto millions of cars, you can get massive amounts of extra training data and training data is going to be a huge part of solving this problem.

You might not like the reasons, or their stance, but it's not such an unreasonable position to take. Mobile Eye even cancelled their next gen lidar project after seeing improvements in vision and radar. What happens when they keep seeing improvements in vision and now radar isn't needed?

I don't know if you've ever used AP but all the crazy headlines you see about it are idiots in cars being idiots. As a L2 vision only system it works very well. If people wanna blame Elon for convincing people to be idiots, sure, you can do that, but that has nothing to do with the actual technological approach they are taking. They're two different things.

Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.

Akin to

very similar to something

Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is very similar to having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a "4" between the eyes.

~~Your equating the 1 in 5 miscarriages to having a 1 in 5 chance of death but 1 in 5 miscarriages do not have a chance of death very similar to being shot if you roll a 4 on a 5 sided dice which is a 1 in 5 chance of death.~~

Edit: Just cleaning this up as what I wrote got confusing...

Your saying that 1 in 5 pregencies have a miscarriage (20%) and equate a miscarriage that happens 1/5 times, to being shot 1/5 times which would be death. But an (edit untreated) miscarriage doesn't mean death. So it is not very similar to having a 1/5 chance of death by being shot.

Maybe you don't know what you wrote?

The point is that to be truly autonomous when vision is the only fail safe reliable sensor, then vision MUST work to have a truly autonomous vehicle.

You can't rely on radar without vision or lidar because it can't see stopped vehicles at high speed. This a deadly serious problem.

You can't rely on lidar in rain/fog/snow/dust because the light bounces off of the particles and gives bad data, plus it can't tell you anything about what the object is or might intend to do, only that it's there.

Only vision can do all of those, it's just a matter of number of cameras, camera quality, and AI processing capabilities.

If vision can do all those things perfectly, maybe you don't need those other sensors after all?

if vision can't do it, then we won't have a truly autonomous future.

The other sensors are a crutch because the vision problem is so hard.

Respectfully, I don’t know where you are pulling that equivalence from? I don’t believe I said 1 in 5 would likely die from losing a pregnancy?

Ummm dude

Texas killing this child for losing a pregnancy is akin to them having you roll a 5 sided dice and shooting anyone who lands on a “4” between the eyes.

You totally did, and this is what triggered my response.

Except the radar doesn't know where every object is. It can't detect stopped things while traveling at high speeds.

You know, the things people keep having accidents with, with or without l2 semi-autonomous software.

The cameras have overlaps which can be used to measure depth and distance.

There are multiple front cameras

The side pillar camera has overlap with the side rear facing

The 2 side rear facing each have overlap with the rear.

Edit: I imagine their weakest depth/ distance perception with the current set up would be their side pillar cameras. But they could also probably do some calculations with how fast it passes from front to rear.

The Android OS is very hostile to background processes running.

The rules around what's okay and what's not is constantly changing, so apps that need to run things in the background are constantly having to update things so they can work properly and sometimes they don't, or they do it wrong, and then certain features don't work properly like push notifications or schedules events.

Then, even if the developer does everything perfectly you get OEMs like Samsung that ignore the rules and fuck with your app anyway, and the literal only way to stop it is to go into the OS setting and disable a lot of things, which puts the onus on the user, and not the developer to make the app work.

But Samsung is such a bitch that even then they don't honor your settings and sometimes revert them, or add new ones that fuck with it again in a constantly changing hard to find nested settings menu.

I actually do like my Samsung phone, but god damn fuck you Samsung for doing this.

If you want a phone that at least follows the ever changing rules properly, get a pixel.

The sentiment is there, but 1 in 5 ending in miscarriage is not 1 in 5 that would be deadly if a miscarriage happened.

Also, that number is known miscarriages (and is the high end i believe of the range). Even more happen before the mother even knows they are pregnant.

Part of the reason you don't tell people before the first trimester is over is because miscarriages before are common.

Because the leopard at her face.

Oops i spoiled the ballot. Too late to get another one, guess I'll vote in person.

Is it storing it or is it accessing the original content?

Hey siri summarize finances.txt and it opening the file to summarize is different than it having its own copy stored somewhere.