JeSuisUnHombre

Of course protecting the public is the first priority, otherwise there just wouldn't be a justice system. But your willingness to label a person as evil keeps you open to calling whole groups of people evil (like say immigrants). That actually invites evil to yourself and society because 'prison is for evil people, I'm not in prison so I must not be evil' when in reality everyone is capable of evil and should always be guarding against those thoughts, not dismissing them as impossibilities.

In line with the rest of my paragraph, labeling them as bad people who deserve bad things is very authoritarian and dehumanizing. That's the type of rhetoric someone like Trump uses. The more comfortable society is with that rhetoric the more susceptible we are to a fascist takeover.

You seem unable to separate rehabilitation / treatment for mental health from medical interventions and drugs.

What I'm arguing is that punishment is not justice. No person should have the right to dole out punishments to another. To think otherwise betrays a very authoritarian mindset.

I don't have a 500 page document detailing a new version of our justice system, partly because, as you correctly stated, there isn't a one size fits all solution. But I know whatever system that is should be focused on empathy and compassion, not making people pay for their misdeeds.

But even if I completely agreed with what you're saying, I would still think it's gross to cheer for anyone being sent to "an atrocity that needs to be dismantled and replaced", especially if it's for the rest of their lives.

I don't know why you think there's more autonomy in a mental institution than prison, or why you keep bringing up forcing drugs and surgery on people like that's the only way to help people with mental health issues. Your stance is still not making sense from a moral standpoint.

Edit: just want to note that the first sentence of the comment above wasn't there when reply was written

Why do you think it's immoral to involuntarily institutionalize but moral to lock them in a jail cell?

The criticism is that a large portion of voters wouldn't support her if she wasn't running against someone like Trump. I know that criticism has at least some substance because it applies to me.

Edit: more specifically her campaign is using Trump as a bogeyman more than she's running on actual policy.

I think I understood the first paragraph before your comment but thank you for the clarification. And I do generally agree with your second paragraph as well. I do think it's a bit reductive and is often used to draw attention from the more substantial reasons.

Also deciding people are nuts is a great way to alienate and isolate them which will only entrench those ideas and can further radicalize them.

1. As a leftist that totally hates Trump, I am voting for Harris because it's not strategic for me to do otherwise. I still have the ability to recognize that the dems are doing their damndest to uphold a broken status quo that is actively harming everyone, especially children in Palestine.

2. Why shouldn't they paint the entire GOP as a threat when they are the party America's Hitler? The reason we have Trump in the first place is because the DNC wanted a bogeyman to get Hilary in in 2016, quickly found source from 2016. They shouldn't be trying to court Republicans, they should be trying to motivate people with real progress. The reason Hilary lost was because people are sick of establishment politicians and she was the embodiment of that establishment.

People are sick and tired of having 2 bad choices and nothing else.

I think I understood their sarcasm. They think I'm engaging in misogynistic tendencies and do actually think Trump voters are "nuts".

Super healthy and helpful mindset /s