Harrison

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You:

The European colonial project that built the US killed literally hundreds of millions of people in the US alone

Your source places the highest estimates for a north American population at seven million. Most likely it was half that. "Hundreds of millions of people in the US alone" is what I am contesting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

We brought pigs into existence for the benefit of human conditions, we will take them out of it if and when it becomes necessary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So called ethical treatment impacts the speed and scope of research that can be done, and in doing so delays or prevents the benefits of conducting that research. That means that people who could be saved by animal tested medicines instead die in the time taken to find an alternative.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This source supports me as far as I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's gross is condemning people to die for the sake of some pigs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I would see a million pigs die before one human.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The entire population of North and South America at the start of that project did not exceed a hundred million, and the vast majority of it was in central and southern America. There were not hundreds of millions of people in the US to kill.

Very possibly, every native American living within the modern borders of the US from 1400 to today might have totalled a hundred million, but the colonial project didn't kill literally every one of them.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Iraq and Afghanistan had their militaries levelled in a matter of days. It's the occupation that created problems

[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's neither of those things. Words have meanings, and legal terms have very specific meanings.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Climate change is not going to be literally the end of the world, or even human civilization. At the worst we'll see mass immigration to the global north and the centre equatorial band become more difficult to inhabit.
Farm yields will probably drop to some extent, and we might see a few wars, but we are fairly well equipped to survive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The same thing except you then have to pay for the disk, distribution and worry about stock and so on.

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