HalfSalesman

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Our officials mostly lost this election. And might not even have a chance to run again.

Demanding better can be phrased in a way as to not encourage people to abstain form voting them in.

Its doesn't really matter anymore.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Some of them are.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Not just voting, but yes engagement with the electoral system in various ways. As well as volunteer work and organizing.

But I can say I'm done with that now.

I noticed my post got nuked. Interesting.

Edit: Also "siding" with the brown shirts? I merely aim to survive them. If not, oh well at least I'm done dealing with the bullshit of being alive I guess.

EDIT:

Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.

A mod deleted it.

I was being a smart ass because I assumed you and your type are trying to drag me into a violent conflict and I wont engage with that, not after this election result.

Besides realistically they'll come for both of us and then we'll be dead and not have to worry about this shit anymore. Its laughable that we'd be able to put up a fight: we would be turned into red mist.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not saying that. I'm describing cause and effect.

You need to ask yourself what is more important, consequences or virtue? Because sometimes you don't get both.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -1 points 4 hours ago

Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That'll show the fascists!

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -3 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

I agree.

We still should have prevented Trump from winning by more people voting Democrat.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -3 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

To prevent fascists from taking power.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -1 points 4 hours ago

I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys

No I'm not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.

And TBH, I don't want to help stupid people if they're going to keep dragging me into the mud. I've worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I'm done swimming up a waterfall.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

I don’t know what that means.

I was trying to figure out if you were a societal collectivist in terms of what you think would be in our best interest as individuals. A truly collectivist society would not be permissive of the freedom of association. If someone can choose to not participate or even compete, that may risk undermining the collective's interests. There is a sliding scale here though.

I have no problem with possessions, I have a problem with creating a metaphysical fantasy of the idea of the “ownership” of things, property. I view property as the idea of the metaphysical “right” of ownership of an object or land. I reject that this really exists

Yeah I more or less agree. I don't really believe in rights at all. For me property is more of an aspect of social constructs and that property in some forms holds value in a society I'd like to live in. Just not private property.

Why bloodless? When Capitalism is bathed in blood daily?

Consequences. If you minimize the bloodshed, you are more likely to have a stable and functional society afterward to maintain a new system. And also obviously, just minimizing deaths is always preferable to me regardless of cause. Further, the question is not of blame but if you find yourself in the position to prevent death that doesn't mean you can prevent other deaths. Even after an insurrection that established some kind of path to ending capitalism, killing more directly if anything will cause even more indirect systemic deaths.

Also, I said "bloodless as possible". I know that statistically speaking some likely would end up dead to save many others in such a situation. If letting someone live means capitalism wins, then by all means in this scenario, kill them, but most of the time it wouldn't be necessary.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -4 points 5 hours ago (10 children)

That is irrelevant. You don't seem to understand the point I'm making. I'm saying the average American hears critiques and only process them at surface level and forms a black and white evaluation on that basis. This is incredibly fucking stupid.

And knowing that there are so many American's like this: it is legitimately going to make fewer Americans vote to prevent the fascist from taking power (and did!) because they'll feel like they're aligning with the "bad guys" if you critique Democrats in public without a load of additional context (that some wont even absorb anyway if you provided it).

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No, its a valid theory even if women self-express in ways other than sexuality and the post you were responding to wasn't suggesting "only acting on instincts" in the first place. But that our society of repressing sexuality is making most of us miserable. There is only a select few people who seem to actually benefit from this set up, and that's people who either don't actually desire sexuality for direct enjoyment at all or value it and how it interacts with them more for obtaining other things other than sexual things in life.

AN important thing to note, people expressing themselves in ways outside of sexuality can make them sexier. And being sexier can enhance non-sexual aspects of a person.

I think the issue people have is they think wanting sexuality from a person means you are objectifying them by reducing them to sexuality, when in reality its that the sexuality is enhanced by them specifically not being an object. There are many reasons sex with a person and not with a dildo or fleshlight is considered a lot more pleasurable but one of them is that people aren't objects.

Also almost no one only operates in one "mode of operation" anyway. This isn't a real problem except in the minds of prudes projecting an overly simplified perspective on sluts and horndogs. The apparent "obsession" with sex for some people is temporal, some people desire sex up front and then want to do other things once satisfied. Some people want to do other things and then find themselves in the mood after some time with the alternate activity. Its not complicated.

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