HalfSalesman

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, I noticed.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Perhaps you could elaborate on why?

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -2 points 9 hours ago

Our officials mostly lost this election. And might not even have a chance to run again.

Demanding better can be phrased in a way as to not encourage people to abstain form voting them in.

Its doesn't really matter anymore.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Some of them are.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Not just voting, but yes engagement with the electoral system in various ways. As well as volunteer work and organizing.

But I can say I'm done with that now.

I noticed my post got nuked. Interesting.

Edit: Also "siding" with the brown shirts? I merely aim to survive them. If not, oh well at least I'm done dealing with the bullshit of being alive I guess.

EDIT:

Edit: Did he delete his comment? I can’t see it. But dude went full lib-fascist. Told me he hopes the brown shirts come for me.

A mod deleted it.

I was being a smart ass because I assumed you and your type are trying to drag me into a violent conflict and I wont engage with that, not after this election result.

Besides realistically they'll come for both of us and then we'll be dead and not have to worry about this shit anymore. Its laughable that we'd be able to put up a fight: we would be turned into red mist.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not saying that. I'm describing cause and effect.

You need to ask yourself what is more important, consequences or virtue? Because sometimes you don't get both.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

Instead, we should sprint full speed into fascism. That'll show the fascists!

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -5 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

I agree.

We still should have prevented Trump from winning by more people voting Democrat.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -4 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

To prevent fascists from taking power.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee -2 points 11 hours ago

I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys

No I'm not. I literally said that they would. And I hold that such a black and white surface level evaluation of the situation and to then choose not to vote is aggressively fucking stupid.

And TBH, I don't want to help stupid people if they're going to keep dragging me into the mud. I've worried about politics for most of my life and worked to make things better for other people but this election has freed me to focus on helping mostly just myself and a few close people that align with me. Most other people are hopeless. I'm done swimming up a waterfall.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

I don’t know what that means.

I was trying to figure out if you were a societal collectivist in terms of what you think would be in our best interest as individuals. A truly collectivist society would not be permissive of the freedom of association. If someone can choose to not participate or even compete, that may risk undermining the collective's interests. There is a sliding scale here though.

I have no problem with possessions, I have a problem with creating a metaphysical fantasy of the idea of the “ownership” of things, property. I view property as the idea of the metaphysical “right” of ownership of an object or land. I reject that this really exists

Yeah I more or less agree. I don't really believe in rights at all. For me property is more of an aspect of social constructs and that property in some forms holds value in a society I'd like to live in. Just not private property.

Why bloodless? When Capitalism is bathed in blood daily?

Consequences. If you minimize the bloodshed, you are more likely to have a stable and functional society afterward to maintain a new system. And also obviously, just minimizing deaths is always preferable to me regardless of cause. Further, the question is not of blame but if you find yourself in the position to prevent death that doesn't mean you can prevent other deaths. Even after an insurrection that established some kind of path to ending capitalism, killing more directly if anything will cause even more indirect systemic deaths.

Also, I said "bloodless as possible". I know that statistically speaking some likely would end up dead to save many others in such a situation. If letting someone live means capitalism wins, then by all means in this scenario, kill them, but most of the time it wouldn't be necessary.

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