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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The instances hosting active Star Trek communities didn’t exist during the previous season of Discovery, so Lemmy isn’t a great way to gauge relative interest.

On Reddit, the /r/startrek discussion thread for 4x02 has 1.1k comments and 4x03 has 600 comments while the thread for 5x03 only has about 400 comments. This seems to support your hypothesis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I have long held that Season 5, Episode 2 of The Next Generation is the best episode to "test" if you'll like Star Trek or not. It is a generally well-liked and well-reviewed episode, but more than that, from both a story and a character standpoint it is representative of what your average Star Trek episode is generally about.

So, my recommendation is to watch that one episode and report back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

After four seasons, Discovery still can’t figure out how to pace a full season arc. The A-plot was a miniature Humanity on Trial story which Trek has done to death, and the rest was filler.

Jinaal was a fun character and Wilson Cruz did a great job with him. “This guy really works out” made me laugh. Beyond that, sheesh, what a snooze.

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Apologies for the delayed post, Lemmy.World has had some federation issues this week.

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Episode Information

No. Episode Written By Directed By Release Date
5x03 Jinaal Kyle Jarrow & Lauren Wilkinson Andi Armaganian 2024-04-11

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Thank you for looking into it!

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/c/[email protected] is the second biggest community on Lemmy.World and yet on /0, there is nothing newer than two days.

/c/[email protected] has two posts from today but based on the vote count, I think it's only showing votes from this instance

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It’s extremely easy, you just install AdGuard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In the US you either had unlimited SMS or no SMS plan at all, in which case you got charged for every single message, sent or received. But I remember having unlimited SMS as early as 2003.

If you had no SMS at all then you certainly didn't have a data plan, which ruled out WhatsApp entirely.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

That’s easy: unlimited SMS was common on most mobile plans in the US as early as the mid-2000s. Unlike the rest of the world, Americans had no financial incentive to use WhatsApp.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well, that was certainly an episode of Star Trek: Discovery. Actually, it might be one of Discovery’s most representative episodes.

Discovery at its worst: geez that warp chase scene was awful. It wasn’t a great use of How We Got Here because there wasn’t enough time between the flashback and the redux to make the flashback seem justified—the bulk of the episode happened after the redux anyways. It wasn’t a great use of Once More With Clarity, either. I guess they were going for some sort of dramatic Rayner reveal? But, the “revelation” that the Antares was shadowing Burnham that whole time wasn’t particularly interesting. Nothing was gained by temporally displacing that scene other than frontloading the action, which makes it seem like Discovery is scared to lead with a character moment or a story beat, as if their mentality is “we gotta get to the pew pew ASAP because that’s why the audience is here.”

It felt unearned, and was just another instance of Discovery borrowing things from better shows without adding anything or seemingly even understanding why what they borrowed worked in a different context. And of course, this teed up one of Discovery’s most obnoxious long-running tropes: Burnham knows she’s right and spends a few minutes exasperatedly explaining to an unwelcome guest with equivalent or higher authority than her to no avail. The thing that’s always weird about these scenes is the way Burnham keeps going even after it’s become very clear that the person she’s trying to convince isn’t having it. At that point, focus on getting into the ship, don’t continue the argument! These scenes always feel like Burnham is trying to make sure that the viewer knows she’s right rather than the other character.

I know she’s right. She’s always right.

Discovery at its best: The scene where Discovery and Antares save the settlement on Q’mau. This had all the bits and pieces of a classic Trek triumph: the heroes put the mission, their ships, and themselves at risk to save innocent lives because it’s the right thing to do and ultimately save the day thanks to quick thinking, creativity, and Starfleet's engineering prowess. This was actually the only sequence in the episode where the Burnham-Rayner interaction worked: Rayner’s calculated risk paid off but introduced a new complication, but Rayner was also pretty quick to concede that “ok yeah, to hell with this ‘Red Directive’ nonsense, innocent lives are at stake” and ceded authority to Burnham.

Visually, seeing Discovery and Antares literally shield the settlement was fantastic. The detail on the shields stopping the rockslide was great fun to watch. These have always been my favorite Discovery moments: classic Trek formula with modern effects and pacing.

Why I'm worried: Rayner. One of Discovery's quirks has always been what I call "the interloper," an external authority figured foisted onto the cast to either foil or assist Burnham depending on which direction the story needs to turn. Lorca and Pike were more pronounced instances of this quirk than Vance and Rilliak were, but all four seasons have done it.

Our season 5 interloper looks to be Rayner, and it looks like Rayner is going to be as prominent as Lorca and Pike were. And boy, I didn't find Rayner to be interesting or compelling at all. I've worked with far too many "I'm allowed to be a jerk because I'm right" types to be entertained by them, particularly when played straight. I really hope they do something more novel with Rayner, and quickly.

 

 

 

Episode Information

No. Episode Written By Directed By Release Date
5x01 Red Directive Michelle Paradise Olatunde Osunsanmi 2024-04-04
5x02 Under The Twin Moons Alan McElroy Doug Aarniokoski 2024-04-04

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Today we embark on the final season of Discovery. I’m going make a simple request: whether you love it, hate it, or are ambivalent about it, it would make me so happy if everyone could just be cool. Online discussions about Discovery tend to devolve into circlejerks or two minute hates, and some see the latter in particular as justification to moderate the places where these discussions happen with a heavy hand.

I’m not interested in that kind of community. Online discussions are healthier when everyone is respectful and moderators only need to employ a light touch. So in the words of an ace pilot from another great sci-fi show: I am a friendly, okay? We're all friendlies. So, let's just... be friendly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, shields normally let transporters pass right through and definitely need to be specifically configured to block transporter beams. That’s why no away team has ever been stranded because their ship had to raise shields.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Thank you. It’s not a proper Trek vs. Wars thread until someone busts out the canon card. I can’t believe it took 5 hours!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well now we've just arrived at MAD, in space. Both sides deploy their Star Killers and both galaxies are rendered uninhabitable.

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With the benefit of 11 years of hindsight, lets talk about Star Trek Into Darkness. Cards on the table: I don't like this movie at all. It's probably my least favorite Star Trek story across the entire canon.

While this movie was being promoted, no one would confirm that Cumberbatch was Khan despite rampant speculation. He's not even introduced as Khan, for the first half of the movie he's "John Harrison," and the Khan reveal is played as a big dramatic moment.

JJ Abrams' entire shtick is that he crafts "mystery boxes." So... is that it? Is Star Trek Into Darkness just a mystery box where the identity of the villain is the mystery, and Abrams & co. just worked backwards from there?

Lets be generous and say that's not it: Into Darkness had something to say. We have a conspiracy, a rogue admiral, an automated super-warship, the death of a mentor... it seems like we can pull something out of here, right?

... right?

 

O'Brien is a "chief," Jonas and Cutler hold the rank of "Crewman," and I think those are the only enlisted personnel who have lines and appear in more than one episode. Starfleet seems ridiculously officer heavy.

Is the enlisted/officer distinction different in Starfleet from traditional armed forces? And where are all the warrant officers?

 

Good video, fun channel. But it unearthed a memory in me: does anyone else remember a website, probably from a while back, that let you superimpose various sci-fi ships over Google Maps? I swear this was a thing, and it was great for getting a sense of scale of these ships.

What other visual aids for ship scale have you come across?

 
 

Very active post on LW: https://lemmy.world/post/12747897

Empty thread on db0: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/15749604

I had initially assumed it was a problem on LWs end... but other instances seem to be federating just fine:

https://lemm.ee/post/25817431

https://lemmy.ml/post/12793895

Just wanted to bring it to your attention. Not sure if this is on LWs end of db0's end.

 

I get it: Voyager was about Voyager's voyage and there's a strong case to be made that it ended exactly when it should have.

But on the other hand, every time I watch "Endgame" it strikes me how incredibly abrupt the actual ending feels. Do you think the show should have spent some time depicting the crew's experiences of arriving home?

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