GivingEuropeASpook

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Is it hand-wringing to feel upset at civilians being taken hostage? Tell me why I should look an 8-year old Israeli kid in the eye and tell them they deserve what's coming to them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Uprising? I'm sorry, but the civilians in Gaza aren't doing any glorious uprising they're hiding from the barrage of Israeli rockets being launched that are leveling their city.

An uprising is not a coordinated military effort, and while I am on the side of the oppressed, i am not going to use a bunch of justifications to dismiss the trauma being inflicted on civilians because they had the gall to be born to parents who decided to move to occupied Palestine.

Sometimes I really wonder how many of you actually care about human life and how many of you care about evening the score.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if you believe they deserved death, they deserved it through some sort of legal mechanism accountable to the people they harmed and not just one faction that also harms far more than the evil ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm saying that failing to realise the target was chosen for what was in the buildings and not just because they're tall buildings is pure liberalism,

You know that that's what every tall building is right? There's literally a whole thing about how skyscrapers basically exist for capitalism. They chose the WTC because that tall building in particular would be particularly terrifying to watch blow up and collapse for the rest ofnthe city (which you know, is mostly working class people, like everywhere else).

any questioning of what finance capital actually does would lead people to realising the vast majority of these people weren't innocents

Even if every single person of the 3k who died in the WTC was a CEO or high-level management in finance capital, they still wouldn't deserve to die how they did. Even if I personally support lining them up against a wall, I don't cease caring about 9/11 because I want them dead anyways.

Now, in the real world, for every finance capitalist, there is a team of employees, paid hourly, who are not capitalists but are selling their ability to work for a wage like most of us. They were the majority of the people who died in 9/11.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More like a handful of businessmen and then hundreds of hourly wage employees sitting in front of computers or cleaning bathrooms and having no involvement in the operations of capital.

Did you forget that 1 wealthy person relies on the work of dozens to hundreds of proles? Or did you think they somehow didn't work in the WTC

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a leap to say that this is a threat. It's not absurd to say that a country losing a war would lead to a refugee crisis? That literally is what always happens. Calling it a threat is to act like he said "if we lose, we will consciously make an effort to hurt our former allies". It's ridiculous and shows how the OP of the article is Big Mad that Ukrainians don't excitedly want to be forcibly realigned to the Russian sphere of influence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A direct and targeted attack? It terrified millions of working class NYCers what are you talking about? The majority of the people who actually made up the workforce of those firms wouldn't be bourgeois - someone who's job it was to copy data or answer the phone for the head honcho.

The ash cloud and debris field was damaging to a hell of a lot more than just a handful of rich people who you think deserved it (even if you support lining them up against a wall, I feel like that's different because it would come as part of a broader revolution and not be the outcome of an isolated terrorist attack).

Most attacks on malls don't kill upwards of 3000 people at once. Heck, some malls can't even hold that many inside them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (29 children)

How many of you are actually happy that people died? I think the memes are funny and I also agree with everything about the US and what it does to people around the world, but my outlook on the world isn't such that I'm glad when someone "evens the score".

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

Lies! I went outside and I saw a poster about CLIMATE CHANGE, and then I turned the corner and heard a family complaining about minimum wage being too low! So unfair, I just want to be ignorant of other people's suffering.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sounds like someone's mad about the obvious being stated. People do get that there are Ukrainains who don't want to live under Putin right? Apparently they're supposed to suck it up and stay in an Occupied Ukraine?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

2023 and we're still calling things our spirit animals eh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

IDK it might be beneficial to know if it's ANOTHER one of the 15 intelligence agencies the US operates...

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