Barbarian772

So your morality depends on a beings intelligence? That's kinda fucked up imo. I have moral obligations in regards to living organisms. I don't see how intelligence matters at all in that case? Worth of any human life should not be determined by intelligence.

I said it is as intelligent as the average human. How many humans can really create 100% new knowledge? Why would it be unable to tie laces? I am pretty sure I have seen videos of animals doing it. Of course it can't do a rohrschach test, as it doesn't have any visual capabilities atm. If that's a measure for intelligence blind people wouldn't qualify either.

How can i proof it? In my opinion how a system comes to an answer doesn't matter, in yours it obviously does. If we judge Chat gpt or rather gpt 4 just by it's answers it definitely shows intelligence and reasoning. Why does it matter if it's a chinese room? Or just "randomly choosing words"?

As i said before. How can you prove to me that the human brain doesn't essentially do the same?

I think the Wikipedia definition is fine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence. Excluding AI just because it's AI is imo plain stupid and goes against all scientific principles.

I have definitely met humans that are less intelligent that Chat GPT. It can hold a conversation and ace every standardized test we have. It finished law exams, medical exams and other exams from many different countries with a passing grade.

Can you give me a definition of intelligence that excludes Chat GPT and includes all human beings? And no just excluding Computers for the sake of it doesn't count.

GPT 4 is already more intelligent than the average human. Is it more intelligent than the most intelligent human? No, but most humans aren't either. Can it create new knowledge? No, but the average human can't either.

How can you say it isn't intelligent?

Consciousness is just a side result from a complex system imo. I don't think our brain actually works that much differently to a very very complex neural network.

No? But how can you even prove that our brain works differently than a chinese room?

Also, can you give me a convincing argument that our brain doesn't work in essentially the same way?

So? The room as a whole can speak chinese, what do i care how it works in the inside?

Who cares? It still gives me the answers i am looking for.

The worst is when you actually read all that questions and clearly stated how they don't apply and that you already tried them and a mod is still closing your question as a duplicate.