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I have very limited tent space and am not familiar with these genetics as I received them from a buddy. The two red bags and the white bag are Lit Farms and Ethos in the other. Anyone have any first hand experience with either company?
Google tells me lit can be very temperamental and read a lot of negative press about ethos, but positive on their quality. Appreciate your time!
No first hand, but I recall reddit being gassed up about ethos at one point. The ones that are one strain x another strain are going to be a crapshoot since the genetics in those crosses are untested. Unlike most "pure" branded strains that have been more or less stabilized to produce consistently good, or good enough, phenotypes.
I was a bit worried about that..especially with the ethos being a 'pre-release'. Might just have to rip one per grow this year and see whats what. Thanks for your input!!
Just keep an eye on them, unstable genetics can herm easier, so what you’re used to doing to other plants could set them off for no “apparent” reason. Shitty genetics are shitty, sure they can be a one in a million diamond, if you don’t looks at it wrong once.
I sincerely appreciate the heads up! Would be a shame to have it in the scrog trellis and have it start chucking pollen!
I got some freebee ethos seeds that did well. It was blueberry & had decent yield with good flavor. Probably worth a run if you have the seeds anyways.
Edit: typoo
Appreciate it! I popped one of the ethos and will see what shakes out!
Edit 5.28.24// half way decent result but not worth keeping.
None of those lineages look like stabilized genetics, so expect every seed to produce a rather different plant. That's not to say they won't be good, but if you find one you really like, clone it because chances of another seed in the pack producing the same thing is very low.
The only seeds that will breed true to type are stabilized inbred lines or the F1 hybrids of stabilized inbred lines. These are extremely rare in the consumer marketplace still, but should become more common soon since the serious breeders have been working hard on just that.
Thanks for your reply! Would you be able to recommend any breeders doing just that with stabilized genetics? All my mothers have been intensely pheno hunted and I just don't have the space (or plant count)to try to branch out for more keepers.
Mail order is an option but the legality is tricky, so use appropriate caution. Phylos Bio is a much-hated but serious breeder. The prices are insane $155 USD for 25 seeds. But given the amount of work it takes to come even close to inbreeding parent lines and evaluating hybrids, I don’t think that’s too far off a fair price.
Many of the cheaper options don’t really use the complex vocabulary of plant breeding correctly on their sites, so Im not convinced they have all done the work.
There are some companies in europe that claim to have stabilized some landraces. For a home grower, getting two of those and going to the trouble to do a reciprocal feminized cross, well you’d be popping new treats every crop for years to come.
I appreciate it! I will be looking into Phylos this evening as I've never heard of them!
I've played the 'our genetics are stable we swear' game one too many times and am willing to pay for reliability.