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US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.

Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.

Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.

“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago (11 children)

If you want a “self driving vehicle,” buy a horse.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's great if there's a train that goes where you need to go. For most people in the US that happens approximately never.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (9 children)

If only something could be done about it but it seems for some reason the laws of physics don't allow trains in north America

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Emphasis on "in the U.S." :(

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also the only place that stupid fucking Tesla truck is legal.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Look at Mr Fancy pants with horse money over here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How about a pig with a saddle?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (8 children)

As someone who gets both car sick and VR sick, this seems like my worst nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I wouldn't last more than 15 seconds before projectile vomiting.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A lot of the people that drive these things are acting like children in adult bodies. I have seen some wildly dumb shit happen. It's like the car company created by the Darwin Awards...

I literally once saw someone eating on a little folding table/desk of some sort in their Tesla (driver seat, of course) with the dash screen playing some sort of media.

Another time, the person was playing a handheld gaming console of some sort, in the driver seat.

An the automatic lane switching doesn't adjust for people speeding up in the passing lane well. I've seen a couple near accidents there.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stupidity. Stupidity never changes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

"You can't fix stupid" - Ron White

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People have always been idiots behind the wheel. I started driving before personal electronics and touchscreens were a thing. You still saw people bracing books or newspapers against the steering wheel with their thumbs so they could read as they drove down the highway. Now it’s watching movies, texting or other social media, video conversations, reading…

Just seems that there are way more people doing it. The social contract gets more broken every day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

It was amazing what I saw people doing when commuting in L.A. traffic. Yes, it was very slow. You still could hit the person in front of you!

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.

This is not entirely true anymore. If you're in a 2024 Mercedes EQS Sedan driving in Nevada (Edit: or California) at less than 40 mph, you are allowed to take your hands off the wheel and your eyes off the road.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Lol that's oddly specific.

Test road?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (13 children)

No, Mercedes is the first one to market with a level 3 (fully self driving) system, which is available with their top of the line sedan.
They applied for certification and got it from the state of Nevada. (Edit: And California)

The system itself is limited to 40mph.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Wow, is Mercedes advertising that at all?

Engadget tried it in LA in September ‘23. (Piped)

Interestingly, still can’t use your phone due to CA law - but can watch videos, browse the web, as long as you stay <=40 MPH (65 km/h).

And it’s Mercedes’ fault if it crashes!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (6 children)

This is one of the things about assisted driving tech that's always confused me. It seems unlikely that we will have fully self-driving cars soon, but the illusion of being able to be absent while driving seems really dangerous. It doesn't seem like an improvement to me to remove the human element from most of the driving tasks while also requiring that human to spring into action seemingly at random.

Like don't get me wrong, people do dumb shit on the road with or without assistance, but having a system that requires human involvement at a zero-to-hero level seems like a bad system.

Then again, based on this actual content, maybe people just shouldn't be allowed to own vehicles full stop.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

It's like they're competing for being the most punchable.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

When HMD becomes permanently part of their face upon airbag deployment they might finally realize it was a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Realization might only last for about a millisecond or two.

At some point, doctors are gonna tell a guy, "your face is already irreparably damaged by these AR devices in your sniff.. just as an experiment, why not improve the enhancements surgically?" And that's how cyberpunk 2077 gets on the rails.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Building a new 6 Million Dollar Man.

Except that’s what you now have in medical debt.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The complete disregard for road safety and personal well-being (not to mention the well-being of others) never ceases to amaze me.

I see several videos every day on social media of people taking videos while driving.

Saw another guy doing a (very unimportant) delivery with a trailer across state in a clapped-out old van on the 1 day of the year there was ice on the road, and predictably crashed badly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If this prompts the US government, why is the rising pedestrian deaths not promoting action?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

viral videos

Single video..

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