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Boeing Co said on Sunday it will have to do more work on about 50 undelivered 737 Max airplanes, potentially delaying near-term deliveries, after its supplier Spirit AeroSystems discovered two mis-drilled holes on some fuselages.

Boeing confirmed the findings in response to a Reuters query after industry sources said a spacing problem had been discovered in holes drilled on a window frame, but the jetmaker said safety was unaffected and existing 737s could keep flying.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is going to take decades for Boeing to regain their credibility. Even if this is “minor,” it’s still another hit on their reputation.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no option. Boeing is too big to fail. Nothing will change. Us tax dollars will make sure of that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. What is the alternative? The US cannot accept losses to Airbus and Embraer cannot compete in certain size classes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

Too big to fail = to big to leave to corporate capitalism. If it is so important to our nation, then nationalize it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

What is the alternative?

Nationalization.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How much more does the government allow this company to screw up before they force new and competent management to oversee this shitshow? It’s getting ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I like Biden and all, but for corporations like this? Probably an unlimited amount.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

I’m beginning to think accountants might suck at building planes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not flying Boeing, period

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not flying period unless it's an emergency or there's no other practical way to get where I'm going.

Otherwise I'll just drive.

Unsafeness of Boeings aside, it's overpriced, loud, uncomfortable, and just generally an unpleasant experience. I don't love being in a car, but at least I can do things like move my arm more than two inches to the right or just get out and stretch my legs for a few minutes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I've been riding the train as often as it's available and I find it far more enjoyable than either. I wish there were more routes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The 787, 777, 767, 757, 747, and even pre-Max 737NGs are fine aircraft. You want to worry about the Max, fine. But otherwise, your statement is not smart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would I fly one of those old ass planes when I could ride on an Airbus that's new and doesn't have the safety issues of new Boeings?

I'll return when they kick the mcdickhead executives.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There are plenty of "old ass" Airbus planes out there. And it's not like Airbus planes never crash.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And guess who makes a ton of Airbus components? Spirit, the company that has caused nearly all of the recent 737 issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Spirit manufactured and supplied the door assemblies that Boeing improperly installed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Spirit installs the plugs before delivering to Boeing. If Boeing identifies issues with the plugs after they get the fuselages, it's Spirit crews that are responsible for fixing them.

They also install the pressure bulkheads that they were misdrilling, which they knew were a problem for a year and covered up. They have a history of punishing internal inspectors for identifying problems.

Boeing has been dropping the ball on catching these issues, but with how many different subtle things Spirit has been screwing up, it's likely Airbus has missed things too. Spirit's management has no place in safety-critical industry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Sorry, you're not going to convince me to get on a Boeing. My airport only has 37s and maxes, so it's not like I have a choice in which Boeing I use

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

It will hurt, but boing needs to announce a clean sheet narrowbody and end the 737Max. Put engineering 100% in charge of the development. Don’t give in to the sunk cost fallacy.

Trying to slap even wider and higher bypass engines and maintain a common type rating was a cost saving measure that has blown up in their face.