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Usenet. The speed, reliability, volume of content. It has been unmatched for me.
The setup is slightly more annoying than torrenting, but also more professional and less sketchy. It is as if torrenting had a real ISP-style customer service experience.
How dare you compare usenet to ISP customer experience? lol
I hate most ISPs for sure. I’m stuck with my local monopoly.
But nonetheless my experience is still: pay $X, get constantly high bandwidth results. That’s all I mean.
Similarly, torrenting is all over the place. But if you pay good Usenet backbone and indexers, you get a similarly reliable product.
Definitely ISPs suck ass at everything besides taking your money and providing internet.
At first, anything that was free. Then I found the *arrs, moved to Usenet and never looked back.
how did you get started moving from public to private and what does your average workflow look like?
I just started with a handful of Public trackers and they do okay, but I'd like to do a bit better.
On the other hand I don't want to have to invest a huge amount of effort buddying up to complete strangers just to get the latest episode of University Challenge.
I can give you an invite to IPTorrents PM me an email if you want it and I'll send next time I'm on my laptop.
Honestly, I got IPT access from a coworker, and I keep an eye out for open registration on trackers I want. I don't use them anymore, I just use sonarr/radarr with Usenet now. If that can't find it, I use jackett, then go to YouTube or google if I still can't find it.
thank you that's very kind - I have done so
Not sure I replied to the PM correctly but I did invite you to IPT. Cheers!
I don't have any experience with Usenet or any current DDL sources. I generally check public trackers first, then private trackers, and mostly use private trackers when I can't find something on public trackers.
My selfish reasoning is that with public trackers, I don't have to worry about my seed ratio, etc. I generally seed to a 3.0 ratio, and I do have some older/more niche stuff set to infinity, but when I need to clear some space in my seed box, it's nice to be able to delete stuff without worrying I'll be penalized.
From a less selfish perspective, if it exists in decent quality on public trackers, I'd rather contribute to keeping it alive there, where more people can access it.
From a less selfish perspective, if it exists in decent quality on public trackers, I’d rather contribute to keeping it alive there, where more people can access it.
This is the way. If more people did this then arguably no one would even need private trackers...
check Indian Pahe or PSA WF, both for DDL links, they are quite fast and pretty good quality X265 rips, better than YTS and most of the stuff, X265 Pahe on par with rarbg
If I download something:
I don't care about quality:
Public > Private > Usenet > DDL
If I care about quality:
Private/Usenet> Public (I will download public if the group is the same) > DDL
I can't find it:
Anything that has some part of it. Usually DDL or some streaming site.
Using private trackers for many years and never had a reason to try usenet, but only hear good storries about it. Public trackers are actually backup in my arr apps, but they are almost never used.
Depends mostly on what content you want to load. Public trackers are fine for popular stuff like Netflix shows or Hollywood movies in English, but you run into trouble as soon as you want more nieche things like audiobooks or movies in your native language. For that you need specialized private trackers or usenet indexers, idk which is better though. One requires invites and seeding, the other usually cost a few bugs extra, so it kinda depends what you prefer.
DDL without a debrid service is pretty bad imo, you'll constantly find things on hosters you don't have a premium accounts with. Even with a debrid service it's hit or miss, especially since links on some hosters get DMCAed very quickly. It's ok for one-off downloads every now and then, but the fact that there isn't even an option to automate the process is pretty telling.
DDL is fine if you know where to look, Indian pahe uploads to mega, onedrive, pixeldrain, especially the last one has pretty much no limits and their X265 rips are on par with rarbg
I switched to xdcc
Usenet > DDL > Private > Public
Usenet is the easiest to automate. I can set it and forget it. For DDL, I use two private sites so I know the quality of what I'm getting. Private I need to worry about ratio, but quality will be more controlled than public.
It’s pretty easy to automate with public too. I have an RSS feed for my shows and it auto downloads every time I open my torrent client.
Usenet. You can download files at high speeds and don't have to fulfill any requirements. But it's insanely hard to get into the top usenet indexers.
What do you mean? Just pay a subscription fee. Or am I missing something?
you first have to get invited for that right?
No, just go to one of the websites and subscribe. It's dead simple.
top tier usenet providers don't work like that. i wish they would though.
Seriously? I'm subscribed to eweka and news hosting for nntp, as well as nzbgeek and nzbfinder for my indexers. Nzbgeek has a lifetime subscription option. You can get anything you're looking for. It's a simple subscription process.
What are you considering as 'top tier' that won't take a subscription?
Some sites for reference:
https://reddit.com/r/usenet/w/indexers?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
sorry to break your bubble, they are good but they aren't the top tier usenet indexers i am talking about.
the top tier i am talking about has a "fight club's rule 1". they take donations but simply won't give you an account if you are willing to get inside.
Then what are some of them? What are they providing that the others don't?
He is probably talking about nzbs.in or omgwtfnzbs.me
Usenet is easier to take down because its a centralized server and you essentially just pay for retention of files. the better Usenet providers have longer retention.
public tracker I can easily search directly from qbit, also good for newest releases
Pahe for DDL stuff, if I want better X265 quality at small size (PSA used to be good, but they fucked up something and I can't play their X265 rips anymore on TV, X265 Pahe rips always work)
ain't gonna pay for usenet or getting invited to private tracker
I prefer DDL as first priority as I get majority of my content from there. I used to torrent from public trackers when I started torrenting many years ago. A year ago I was able to get into some private trackers. I use them to upgrade my movie collection i.e replacing my old files with better quality.
Private trackers. Better quality assurance than public trackers, free unlike usenet.
Public trackers for filesize over quality and modern codecs like av1 or x265. Private trackers for harder to find stuff or good quality over filesize.
DDL
Private trackers.
I have private trackers and Usenet and my quality profiles in the *arrs mostly always pick from torrents. I will cancel my Usenet subscription. I also kinda like the grind of private trackers just for the heck of it.