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submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hey @protonmail @protonprivacy !

First, thanks a lot for your responsiveness. It feels great to keep in touch with my favourite service providers 😁

I'm a Mail Plus user, considering Unlimited, to use VPN. Given the "conflict" with DNS settings when switching on a VPN, how do you see your ad-blockkbg capabilities versus, for example, #nextdns ?

I believe #nextdns might be more configurable, but overall protection level is probably equal to the one of #protonVPN ?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For an out of the box system, Netshield works good indeed. If you want more customization and better granular control, you can achieve more with NextDNS. Out of the box, NextDNS is empty and you'll have to choose for yourself what you're blocking. Thus out of the box, Netshield is better. Once you're having a proper NextDNS config, you're likely to block a little more with NextDNS, based on personal experience.

You can check or benchmark the blocking as example here: https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html

For that reason, personally I am using NextDNS.

Disclaimer:

This is not officially endorsed by Proton VPN.
Use at your own risk (like with any custom DNS)
This will leak DNS requests on purpose outside of the Proton VPN Tunnel to NextDNS, with DoH enabled, for the purpose of a better customization of DNS blocking.

tl;dr: For a normal user, Netshield is good enough. For more technical user needing a better granular control, NextDNS bight be better. Read the disclaimer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Nelizea Thank you, and fantastic tool!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You are welcome. By the way, I posted a guide here for Proton VPN & NextDNS on iOS / ipadOS / macOS:

https://lemmy.world/post/4065911?scrollToComments=true

For Android it is simpler, as you don't need the whole configuration profile and adaptation of config part:

Download the WireGuard App from the Play Store / Aurora / WireGuard homepage+ download the WireGuard config from https://account.protonvpn.com
Import the config and enable the tunnel into the WireGuard app
Set the private DNS in the Android Network settings to the *DNS-over-TLS/QUIC" Address you can find at https://my.nextdns.io -> Setup

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I also do this. On Mac and Android at least. Awesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don't usually reply here

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The beauty of federation is that the official Proton Mastodon account was tagged and throughr Mastadon they could directly answer into the thread here :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can but don't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@helenslunch

They reply when they have something to say. They don't reply just for the case of replying.

I've received several replies from them.

@Nelizea

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Exactly, we're here reading and helping in any way we can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've received several replies from them

Here?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@helenslunch

Yes. In fact, you can see their replies here, if you had bothered checking:
https://mastodon.social/@protonmail/with_replies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not here on Lemmy. You would know that if you had bothered checking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@helenslunch

You're the one who said "Here". And to me "Here" is on Mastodon.
Be precise in your questions if you want precise answers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Here" is not Mastodon. You're posting to Lemmy. I don't need precise answers, just ones that aren't wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@helenslunch

All this conversation is happening on Matodon in my case. I don't even know or care what Lemmy is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also hi Daz, nice to meet you again :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@Nelizea Hey! We meet again 😉

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yea I am glad, even though you don't know what Lemmy is, we're able to interact, thats cool. Hope so see you more often around here from whichever frontend or service you access the information 😁

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@Nelizea

Yes, I'll be hanging around _here_ 😁

I'll contribute when something interesting appears in my streams.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Happy to hear that!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've been waiting for you, Obi Wan...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

@alex_herrero

🤪

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No it isn't. If you don't know what it is, consider educating yourself instead of confidently stating an incorrect position.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No it isn’t. If you don’t know what it is, consider educating yourself instead of confidently stating an incorrect position.

You really ought educating yourself more before posting such stuff please. The commenter you're answering to is using Mastodon, replying via Mastodon and we see the answers here. You can verify that fact yourself here:

https://infosec.exchange/@dazo/with_replies

We use lemmy and can read and answer straight into Mastodon. This is the beautfy of the federation and the ActivityPub protocol. It is possible to interact with eachother between different services.

In the following link as example, the Proton team answered from Mastodon and we can view the comment in lemmy:

https://lemmy.world/comment/6921263

Original answer in Mastodon:

https://mastodon.social/@protonmail/111801236319023002

It doesn't matter where the team answered into, fact is the teams answer can be visible here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The commenter you're answering to is using Mastodon, replying via Mastodon and we see the answers here.

"Here"...on Lemmy. This community is on Lemmy. You are confused.

fact is the teams answer can be visible here.

I've already addressed this. I never said they can't. They CAN see it, but they DON'T reply here, as I stated several replies earlier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not confused at all. My quote literally shows otherwise, however this discussion is senseless. There's no here with federation and ActivityPub protocol. I am out of that discussion now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My quote literally shows otherwise

Once again, your quote literally shows one of many replies on Mastodon. Not Lemmy.

Show me 3 replies to a post or comment in a Lemmy community and I will concede I was wrong.

They almost always reply on Mastodon and (as far as I can tell), NEVER on Lemmy. That's not a coincidence.

There's no here with federation and ActivityPub protocol.

Yes there is because the protocol is not flawless in its' interoperability.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sometimes they do ;-) However I do think that is a question better asked for the community so people can share their experiences.