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[–] [email protected] 165 points 9 months ago (13 children)

SovCits are all like this: they want the benefits of living in our society but they don't want to pay any of the costs. They want to drive on the roads, but not pay taxes or vehicle registration. They want utilities like electricity and water, but not pay the bills. They think they're entitled to stuff without cost. They don't even want to pay their child support.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 months ago (2 children)

SovCits think words have an inherent magical power and knowing the right words gives them more power than if some other rando person. Their entitlement is from them thinking they have outsmarted the system. They are what dumb people think smart people act like.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

I swear SovCits are an embedded cargo cult.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

SovCits have been who boomers were really talking about when they said "millennials"?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

“Sovereign citizen” is a really complicated way to say freeloader..

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I mean, to be fair, I don't want to pay any of that either. If I could get away with not paying anything while getting all the benefits of paying, then I would, but im not an absolute moron so I pay my taxes and bills.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Maybe what they’ve wanted this whole time is jail. Even free food and housing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

they want the benefits of living in our society but they don’t want to pay any of the costs

Same tbh, at least in the sense of wanting to be allowed to exist by default.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The difference is that we understand that real change needs to be ushered in for that to happen, while they just bury their heads in the sand and pretend it already did.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Simple answer, but they won't like it.

Autopay.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Live in a tent down by the river and stock up on batteries.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (2 children)

These sovereign citizens are really thinking they found some sort of glitch in the system. “I dOnt rEcoGnize tHe goVERmEnT anD sOcieTY, I dIdnT siGn No soCiaL cOnTrAct buT I dO like yaLls LEctriCiTY”

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Solar panels mostly, it's viable but expensive, hope your job pays well!

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (63 children)

SovCits are a symptom of the breakdown of the social contract, not one of the causes.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's more a symptom of village idiots finding each other on the web and convincing themselves that they are not idiots. Its a feature of an interconnected world.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They have the morality of an atomized corporation. Always trying to externalise costs to the rest of the planet. All that matters is their own short term needs.

It's like a cargo cult of late stage capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's rooted in white supremacy and anti-Semitism. They are the ones breaking the social contract.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Definitely not a cause. For a while they were a pain in the ass. Courts and lawyers didn't know how to deal with them and they would keep coming back and back with appeals and collateral actions. Now there's a whole playbook for disposing of their bullshit, doesn't jam things up anymore.

It was originally a mail order scam targeting poor, uneducated people who were charged with crimes, desperate to believe any promise of help.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Or maybe they never got past the stage of development where they understand that other people exist.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm noticing a common theme with the "sovereign citizens" where they can't for the life of them look at what they're typing or use the backspace key

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't recognize the backspace keys authority.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago

I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH THE BACKSPACE KEY

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (8 children)

while keeping the light son

seems a little racist

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

It's easy. Strip the wires before and after your electric meter, and attach jumper cables to either side.

It's safe to do this with no protective equipment, just be sure to shout "I do not understand your intent" at the electricity first. That way it will be unable to fry you.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sovereign citizens are hilariously entertaining. I love it when they post videos of themselves in court and decide on their own that they "won" because the judge got pissed off and walked away after dismissing everyone.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Entertaining, yes.. until you live next to one and they decide that, for example, your backyard is their dumpster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You just have to meet them on their crazy level. Make a treaty with them that says something along the lines of "I corporation yourname hereby certify that my neighbor corporation theirname is a freeman of the land in-exchange that our territory boundaries are respected"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But then they could demand to open an embassy inside my house.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tell them they can but they will need an international passport, recommend an eBay store that you own. Sell them one.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

They would be introduced to my sovereign right to beat their ass.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just use an alternative power source than the power grid. Water, solar, wind, etc.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Homemade nuclear reactor it is, then!

Unrelated but why does the air suddenly taste like metal?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

If you can hear the rad you might have a bigger problem than you realize.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

This guy captures sunlight for later

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Simple: get rid of the heavy son.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Light some candles

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Utility companies hate this one trick, which is why they cut you off.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

I too want to know this one trick.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Build an enormous induction coil under the power lines?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

No contract, no power. Super simple stuff.

How could they twist that?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

maybe weird answer but...

  1. depending on overall comfort and freedom desires, you/he could have a look on crimes that happened and how they would be prosecuted, quit renting contracts or sell, tell police one of the crimes was actually you/him and for some month/years the bills will vanish. when living in one of the most shitty countries of the world, police and court might be fully ok if they enprison an innocent anyway and you/he could help someone safe his (bad) ass.
  2. not the expected answer? maybe just find a flat where street lights shine in all night and quit the utility contracts (or just don't sign up) done: lights will stay on ;-)
  3. maybe even better: help healing the world and help fixing politics and utility bills could vanish all over the world, all needed resources are ready available, it just needs a big fix of their distribution.

even though maybe weird, all of above ideas would work =D hope you/he choose no 3

regards ..

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