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[–] [email protected] 218 points 9 months ago (3 children)

“Law and Order” says the party voting for guy with 2 impeachments, 70+ indictments, and being charged for treason.

Fuck these shitbags

[–] [email protected] 135 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I will keep saying this like a broken record:

"Law and order" is a dogwhistle that means "oppress minorities"

“I do not believe we have to choose between law and order and racial justice in America,” Biden said in a speech this week. “We can have both.”

At the apex of the civil rights movement, ... “Law and order” was “a strategy for reaching suburban voters without having to say the ugly part [talking about race] out loud,” says Leah Wright-Rigueur, a political historian and public policy professor at Harvard University. Source

Trump Declared Himself the ‘President of Law and Order.’ Here’s What People Get Wrong About the Origins of That Idea

Except from above:

“Law and order” might sound simple, a 1968 TIME cover story on the campaign pointed out, but to some it was “a shorthand message promising repression of the black community”—and to that community, it was “a bleak warning that worse times may be coming.”

From "law and order" to MAGA - why dog whistles may be even more powerful than overt appeals to racism.

Pass it on.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

Sounds about right.

Just like States Rights meaning "WE get to decide how to oppress our minorities, not the government."

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They can still call themselves that, because no matter what happens to "their guy" it will NEVER be "real." It will always be "the deep state" or "liberal biased judges" or "fake Republicans that are really Democrats."

I'll yell this from the rooftops every goddamn chance I get:

WE HAVE A GIGANTIC PROPAGANDA PROBLEM!

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why are they wearing masks now? Couldn't do it in 2020?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

You see, the masks they told us to wear in 2020 weren't "patriotic." The masks they wear today protect "freedom." I hope I've cleared that up for you.

TLDR the right is full of shit.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The last time it got close to this bad, it ended up in the Oklahoma City Bombing.

What's going to happen this time?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

It’s not something that’s always in the forefront of my thoughts, but I’ve been expecting something like that since qanon took off

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Before the OKC there was Ruby Ridge Massacre and Branch Davidian Cult Massacre which one could say led directly to the retaliation against the FBI.

Until the javkboots bomb a whole city block like the MoVE bombing in Philly 1985, I’ll say things are pretty tame comparatively.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

God damn, imagine if a bunch of black people did what the Proud Boys say and do. The police would probably bust out another improvised airstrike.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Or implement gun control to help imprison group leaders and breakup black "radical" groups.

Cough Ronald Reagan cough

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I get what you're saying and I wonder also. But at the same time, the terrorism has been happening; look at all the racially motivated attacks we've seen since 2016.

I expect more. But to your point i wouldn't be surprised to see another major act of domestic terrorism on par with the Oklahoma City Bombing.

I feel like things are way, way worse than they were back then. Way worse than it's been since the civil rights era.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see "anti-government" and "against government tyranny" in this story a lot, but these people are NOT anti-government. They're very pro-government, as long as the government uses its power to enforce their beliefs. They're very willing to use the power of government to enforce the laws as they see them, and ignore the laws they don't like.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. The monarchy they want is a form of government.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (7 children)

The only ones to blame for the rise of fascism are the fascists. They choose to support an ideology of bigotry and genocide. They choose to act that way.

All you're doing is enabling them by making them out to look like victims when they are anything but.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Remember, we outnumber these cunts.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

But do we out-gun them?

I don't think any civilians should be able to own firearms, but those MAGA cunts own them and you can be damn sure I'm not going to let them get one up on me.

Everyone, buy a gun, train thoroughly, and don't let these assholes bully us into letting them run the country.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately this is the way.

This isn't a game, the police will not protect us, that's been shown. They'll happily club an old lady to the ground and shoot you in the face with rubber bullets if you get near them. I tell my friends as often as I can now is the time. Get a gun or two (a long one a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic medic training (you just need to know how to stablize somebody). Start networking with like-minded people around you. Learn how to rely on yourself and your community. The rightwing wants to install a theocracy in the U.S. in disregard of whatever personal freedoms you hold dear and they're very close to accomplishing it.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I always think it's funny how these hypocratic douchbags will wear masks in public to prevent people from recognizing them but wont wear one to save their neighbors life.
I also think it's funny how they claimed having military and police joining the groups that they know what they're doing, when these people spend their lives being told exactly what to do, how to do it, and what to think about it.
Last note, looked this one up just to be double sure, how they got a guy with the name Mizrahi to join a white power hate group when that name has origins rooted Jewish and Israeli cultures is beyond me. How people can be convinced to go against their own best interest is beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Reminds me of the movie easy rider, and that movie was made in the sixties but its still so relevant, every time people start trying to live freely

“Oh no. What you represent to them is freedom.”

“What the hell’s wrong with freedom, man? That’s what it’s all about.”

“Oh yeah, that’s right, that’s what it’s all about, all right. But talkin’ about it and bein’ it – that’s two different things. I mean, it’s real hard to be free when you are bought and sold in the marketplace. ‘Course, don’t ever tell anybody that they’re not free ‘cause then they’re gonna get real busy killin’ and maimin’ to prove to you that they are. Oh yeah, they’re gonna talk to you, and talk to you, and talk to you about individual freedom, but they see a free individual, it’s gonna scare ‘em.”

“Mmmm, well, that don’t make ‘em runnin’ scared.”

“No, it makes ‘em dangerous.”
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (12 children)

As a Democrat from upstate NY let me tell you why the rural areas are dark red: NYC seems to be all that matters.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

At least 50% of NY's population lives within 50 miles of NYC and I wouldn't be surprised to find out its closer to 65% or 70%. Of course it gets the most attention. I get why people living outside that area would be upset but they cant be surprised.

You see the same thing in every state with a large metro area. There's always griping from western and central MA but the fact is 75% of the population lives in the Boston metro area.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (15 children)

The issue, addressed in the article, is that these rural areas used to have industry that gave people a sense of purpose. Now the choices are basically move to a city, die of a heroin overdose, or join a right wing militia. We need to give these people something to do that's beneficial and where they feel they're contributing to their communities, otherwise, they're going to be wooed by groups with ulterior motives that dress their goals up in rhetoric of service and cohesion.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

its the same on the other coast... Seattle and the i5 area are what keep Washington blue. There are some deep red parts of Washington state and its frightening. As someone that looks like my father (Anglo Saxon) but identifies with my mother (Lakota), it is a surreal experience sometimes. People are fucking crazy and the people who think they are powerful (the deep red) because they are loud are going to have a very rude awakening if there is a violent revolution. They do not have the numbers to repel an angry populace that is fleeing the cities.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

That's the entire planet. Metropolitan places are metropolitan. Homogeneous places are filled with ignorance and prejudice.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

Absolute dumbasses. The lowest achievers from high school, never left town, and signed up for Facebook one day, and now here we are.

In my state, claiming to be part of a militia, unless you've been specifically called up by the Governor, or activated by the feds somehow or another, is a felony.

These groups needs to be considered terrorists, their assets seized, and their presence made illegal. Their goal is the violent oppression of minorities in violation of the Constitution.

Long time ago the Supreme Court said advocating to overthrow the government is protected First Amendment speech, and that made sense when I learned about it but now I think it was a mistake, said from a place of great comfort.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Law and order? So they also want Trump in prison?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Years ago I dated someone who lived in upstate New York. Her neighbor flew a Confederate flag. And also poisoned neighborhood cats.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's unbelievably sad... 😞

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So funny, the proud boys guy was of Mexican descent, the guy in this article seems of middle eastern descent, can they really be this dumb and support white supremacy ideology?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

post 2024 election, J6 2 electric boogaloo succeeds, some lawmakers are dead, others tied up

Enlightened centrists: Come on guys we can't take back the capital they're just sad about their local economy yeah they took congress but yall being mean and calling for them to be forcibly arrested is so much worse!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

First time I've seen somecunt with more flags than brain cells

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