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this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2023
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Yep. They really doubled down on privacy/security and it’s pretty admirable. The President doesn’t use an android or a blackberry for a reason. (Well, two in the case of blackberry. Security and existing). If only there were no other problematic areas of Apple’s business (manufacturing, wages, environmental impact).
Can't wait for them to put their money where their mouth is and do the same in China and other large population countries that demand the same thing 😂
They use WeChat anyway.
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This is one thing Apple has been pretty firm on. You can’t have a secure product and have backdoors. You can try to hide them all you want, but a backdoor will always be a massive security vulnerability.
Will, except in China. They opened the backdoor nice and wide for Winnie the Pooh so he could gobble up all the Chinese iCloud data
Good on them for standing up for what's right on this.
rare Apple W
Not really. Apple's track record for this kind of thing is pretty great. See also, the San Bernardino case.
do you have link?
Apple doesn't like be told what to do.
If privacy is in the way of their desires then Apple will invade their user's privacy. They don't stand for privacy.
Only apple is allowed to spy on it's users
Seems like you're spewing FUD to me, mostly. I agree Apple is far from perfect, but they literally introduced an e2e methodology for much of iCloud data recently.
Besides, even if they are only doing this out of selfish desire, it's still a good thing for the consumers in this case.
Has everyone forgotten about Apples plan to scan every single photo uploaded to iCloud for harmful content? They can and will destroy any semblance of privacy for the right reason.
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Good, why should they comprise security. It makes it easier for everyone to hack, not just the government
It could already be completely hackable and no one would know because the security in this case is solely based on apples word with zero auditing. If there were a true financial incentive there is no doubt they would compromise "security".
21st century govenrments: Hey guys, why don't we ban math?
Yeah good luck with that. Gotta give it to Apple on this one, though I'm not a huge fan of their business practices otherwise.
I don’t doubt it. Apple would probably just ship a new app called “Texts” or something that only does traditional cell carrier text messages, and then refer customers to third party solutions for video conferencing. A nice explanatory web page on Apple’s website to point customers in the region towards would be the cherry on top.
No need for a new app. The app is already called „messages“. Just remove iMessage support and it works „fine“
Can we get iMessage on Android in the States tho?
We have iMessage at home (it's Signal and nobody else uses it)
they removed the ability to send sms in the app. so I, like many others, moved on to other apps that could handle such a task.
signal isn't capable of anything other than talking to other signal users. so it's a dead app.
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Hope this comes to fruition. Maybe it would help people realize how dumb it is to be locked into these services in the first place.
Good
We will have to wait and see what if they actually follow through.
They are big ones for making grand statements and then quietly backtracking later on once all the press isn't paying attention anymore.
I'd say good on Apple protecting their users but knowing Apple it's more like they don't want to be told what to do.
Mine is mainly a YouTube and Books machine. During the NFL season I’ll use it to keep tabs on games that my team isn’t in, or pull up NFL Redzone as a PiP kind of setup from the couch.
Sometimes I use it for recipes too
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