WordPad is what MS Word should be. It's most of what everyone needs in a word processor and it's lightweight. MS Word is becoming a bloated nightmare of toolbars and creeping featuritis.
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Is becoming? It already has been for decades. I think the extent of adding an entire VBA automation backend was somewhere near the tipping point...
Fortunately LibreOffice is a thing for anyone who wants a $0 rich text capable editor, and I'm sure there are a zillion other alternatives by now both open source and not.
Yeah, "becoming" is a strange choice of wording.... Word has been bloated and overkill for 2 decades at this point.
Libre Office is still bulky for anything I want on my PC. If I'm going to do any serious writing, I'm using Google Docs for backups and such. If I'm doing quick txt edits I'm using Sublime or Notepad. I use wordpad for stuff in the middle so I will definitely miss it and not sure how to solve this problem.
That said, I'm not fucking installing Win 11 so guess this isn't a problem till 12.
Why would you install windows 12?
Right? Even setting aside the inevitable "have you considered Linux?" chat, if you're the kind of person who refuses to install Windows 11, why would you be sure you'll install Windows 12?
We've seen nothing to suggest Windows won't just continue to get less usable, more bloated, more spyware-ridden, and just generally more anti-consumer.
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For the same reason I'm not still running 7...because you can't actually stay on one version forever. I'm going to put the whole Linux thing aside because... Yeah, that's a topic of its own and I think anyone with half a mind knows the reasons why Linux isn't everyone's first choice.
But at some point Win 10 will reach EOL and will stop receiving updates. It'll stop receiving new versions of DirectX etc. People will stop making drivers for it. Software will start requiring things in newer versions of Windows, etc. The list goes on, but inevitably you have to update.
Luckily with Windows, you can usually skip one full release, but you can't really make it past 2. Hence why I said 12. Am I crazy about the way 12 is shaping out? No. But you'd be crazy to think that you can just remain on 10 forever so I'm being realistic.
Also, Windows is well known to have a shitty even/odd cycle where every other release sucks and the alternating ones are less bad. So hopefully 12 will be the same. For example, 95 was really good, 98 was meh, XP was fantastic, ME/2000 are kind of a joke, Vista sucked, 7 was good enough, 8 was miserable, 10 was okay, 11 is awful... So if the pattern continues, 12 should be better than 11 at least.
I didn't think this actually needed an answer but... Maybe I'm getting old and am too used to Microsofts cycles. Also, my point was "this isn't a problem till 12" meaning, I'm not touching 11 so it doesn't even matter till I start considering 12. Never said I was definitively doing it.
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I like LibreOffice, I used it it university, and before Libre I used openoffice and staroffice before that.
BUT! Since working in an ms office reliant organization for more than 10 years, I've become addicted to ms office's grammar checks and integration with onedrive/sharepoint. Version control is integrated, I don't have to alt tab to a terminal to submit to svn/git, and we have comments and live collaboration.
I sometimes wish that I could have working grammar check in other software than microsoft's. Writing my final thesis in word, only to copy the sections into texniccenter for layout was tedious.
OnlyOffice if you want an editor similar to Word. I switched to it also because LibreOffice's UI bugged out and I didn't see any buttons.
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I feel like anytime I've ever taken a class to learn how to use Word, it's been one of two things.
First is essentially how we will use Word. It's a note pad with a few extra things for editing text, but the main thing is headers, footers, and the margin sizes.
Second is nothing I will ever use. When I was going to school for accounting I had to take a class on Windows programs, and we spent so much time learning how to post images, how to edit them, and shit like that. By the end of the class I could probably make a profesional looking flyer, but it would have taken half the time with any image editing type program.
Also in that class we had a free students version of Word, which meant that there were usually steps in the homework we couldn't do, but we still got points docked for it. Even though we all told the professor about this. So that was fun.
AbiWord was always a good one. Their format was weird but it wasn't limited to that.
Old word processors were designed to make sure to include features both the consumer and the professional (who would need things like markup tools, special margin widths, etc.) would need. Then professional printers moved on to better software, but Microsoft (and others) never removed those features and that turned into 'how many features can we add' until now Word is like some sort of shitty combination of a WordPad and PowerPoint. It's so full of unnecessary features that have a one case in ten thousand uses.
It's not even just the word processors themselves. This has been going on for decades. Why are dingbats fonts packaged with computers? Because they were printers marks and Apple wanted printers to use their computers, so they added a font with printers marks and then Microsoft did the same with Windows and now we still have a font which is used mostly by kids fucking around because there are now better and easier ways to use the one or two characters in that font set that you will ever likely even think about using.
The more OSes and software trim themselves of this fat, the better, but it goes the other direction most of the time.
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I couldn't care less. I never used it. Was either notepad++ or office. I'm pretty sure with all the telemetry they have, they knew no one really use it anymore and it's not worth it.
I'm amazed I had to scroll this far too find any mention of notepad++
I mean Notepad++ is like a monument to Microsoft incompetence and them not caring about technically minded people for decades. Where a single guy beats trillion dollar company's ass, actually not just beats, absolutely destroys big time. And they were either not able or didn't care with responding and providing some power text editor. The fact that their OS was able to acquire any significant market share in developer's community is an ultimate triumph of marketing department
Will it?!
I thought WordPad was the best thing ever in 2001.
Then I got Microsoft Word. Then Google Docs changed everything by making it free and haven't even thought of WordPad since.
I dunno something something LibreOffice before the Linux nerds beat me up.
Not a Linux nerd, LibreOffice is what we use on our five windows computers because it's free 🤷
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The only times I've ever opened wordpad was on new Windows installs when I hadn't installed another word processor or hadn't changed the default editor for RTF files.
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Will it? Notepad++ all the way man.
Regular notepad is starting to get a LOT more features. I could see notepad essentially filling that void if they keep up the pace.
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No, he won't
Who’s going to miss Wordpad?
RIP WordPad.
I almost never used it (in fact, I only heard of it when its death was announced, striesand effect in action), but this is sad. It's a bygone relic of when software was included with what you paid for, simple and efficient, and not marred by endless storage hungry updates that rarely add anything useful.
There is no easy replacement.
Of course, Microsoft wants you to use Word, which is expensive and runs at 0.05x the speed of WordPad.
There's notepad, but it's far too basic.
Notepad++ exists and is really good (I donated to it recently), but it targets a different kind of text editing, focused more on code than documents.
LibreOffice is good for document editing, but it's somewhat slow and clunky in a way WordPad is definitely not.
The closest competitor may be Abiword but that already died years ago.
I bounced around between LibreOffice and OpenOffice for years as I was too cheap to pay for Word. Mainly Libre.
Finally broke down and paid for Office365 when I was struggling to display some (I believe) docx files at the same time my wife was requesting we get it for her work (and this doesn't even get into struggling to get stuff to display properly for word uses which was constantly a problem).
And man, is it lightyears better than libreoffice. And sure it's slower, it does a ton more stuff, but if it feels slow to you. . .what kind of computer are you running? I use it on my 8 year old laptop all the time and have never really thought it felt slow.
Wordpad I didn't even realize still existed. Just looking at it now, I see why. I see very little I gain from NP++ (or I've even switched over to VSCode for a lot of things).
I feel like you are making the case for why the only "easy" replacement costs money. The free versions are all extremely limited, or aren't very good.
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Not really, so many better alternatives
NOTEPAD++ GANG
Not by me. But maybe by like 2-3 folks…
Is it being replaced with something else preinstalled? What the heck do I tell Windows-using coworkers to use when it doesn't open a text documents automatically from clients??
I've installed Libreoffice but Linux has spoilt me as Windows needs a damn reboot to use it properly. I can't log back in (and one of the setups is also a damn server to the other) :/
I mean, Notepad is still there, and even with its simplicity and other issues (which have gotten a lot better), it's always been way better for text files than WordPad
Notepad could be fine sometimes but they often have images in the documents given from our clients (who are often equally not skilled with computers).
I am sure Microsoft will just keep nagging them to take an Office 365 subscription.
I've installed Libreoffice but Linux has spoilt me as Windows needs a damn reboot to use it properly.
You're either exaggerating or it's a problem with LibreOffice.
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The main reason why I used WordPad was because 'write' is shorter than both 'notepad' and 'msword' in the run menu.
Whenever I need notepad, I just write ‘text’ (for text editor), and it shows up.
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Did Notepad finally understand Linux line-endings?
Yes for a while now, also has tab support.
I honestly remember using this often because it could display .docx/.doc files in a nicer way than libre office. In addition, I never learned how to use word because the interface was too complicated.
When I had to write sth, I used latex and when I needed to view/slightly edit .docx, I used this in a VM.
Been using Kate editor (yes, it's on Windows as well) if I ever decide to boot into Windows 🤢
The KDE for windows software as a whole is pretty good.
I use KDEConnect to combine phone and windows. It although makes changing between OS a lot more fluid.
No, it will not, on my end.
I'm going to keep it as long as I can. It's not often that I use it, but it can't be beat for quick one-off things where I need font formatting (Notepad can't) like address labels or recipes. I use Libre Office for its spreadsheet, haven't really tried the word processor, but I totally do not need a full fledged word processor for that stuff.
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