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The Anti-NSFW measures have gone a bit far... (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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So let me start off by saying that I recognize that there was initially a genuine problem with people who didn't want NSFW content being exposed to it.

Some of this was due to the fact that not all content was being correctly flagged as NSFW, and some of it was because a lot of users didn't realize that individual users can choose to completely block an entire instance - which is not only a very easy and fast solution, but also does not require an all-or-nothing approach of defederating from NSFW instances.

A number of changes were made, but some of those lingering changes have meant that people who do want to see NSFW content are not because:

  1. Even having subscribed to several NSFW subs, they are effectively completely missing from my feed.

  2. Most NSFW thumbnails are blurred.

Both of these behaviors should not be occurring if a user has chosen in their settings to NOT hide NSFW content.

However, I will also say that the blurred state is something that deserves its own user setting (i.e. so that a user can choose to NOT hide NSFW, but still want them blurred or not) - preferably with the granularity to set it for various sub-types of NSFW (e.g. porn, gore, etc...).

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it went too far. Not exposing people accidentally to NSFW content takes priority over giving people a better experience consuming NSFW content. If you want to consume NSFW content head over to an instance that focuses on NSFW content. For example, lemmynsfw.com will fulfill all your NSFW needs.

That's the advantage of the fediverse, you can have different instances focusing on different types of content. And having the main sites of kbin.social or lemmy.world focus on Non-NSFW content will make the entire fediverse easier to advertise to the public.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should be user's choice. Have it enabled by default, but with a possibility to turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. Content is mirrored and hosted locally, so it's the admin's choice and responsibility.

Moreover, listening to choruses of "individual choice" are how you end up providing a server for people who feel no responsibility to their neighbours and communities. Structural issues require more than "Fuck you, I can do what I want."

You can choose to use a different instsnce if you don't like what the admin's doing. Or you can start your own. That's how you can do what you want.

Edit: I do love the downvotes from the "I can do what to want" crowd, knowing that they're also the "my property, my rules" crowd. Except when they're the ones using someone else's shit, of course.

It's not a coherent ideology.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get your reasoning. There's no downside to letting users choose.

And I find the 'love it or leave it' approach distasteful.
I generally like what the admin is doing, in large part because he listens to user feedback, which I was providing.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion.

edit: wait it does makes sense in a way to avoid hosting illegal content, if the instance doesn't have the manpower to moderate effectively. nevermind. still think those issues should be discussed collectively.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The downside is investing tons of time making and testing code that ultimately accomplishes nothing that wouldn't also be achieved by making your own instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should become accustomed to having multiple accounts, ones for different instances, because this is the fediverse and essentially just semi-interlinked forums. If you want forum specific content that is generally considered spicy, go to that forum directly rather than complain that every other forum not handle your need for spicy content in an effective way for all parties.

This isnt some faceless megacorp. You are so used to one source for all your content due to reddit, but you should not expect one instance to provide you with all your desired content. Can you imagine how many man hours need to be put into effectively handling spicy content, across all instances? Or, you can just go to the spicy content forums.

Yes, there is a need for better handling multiple accounts seamlessly, its definitely under development in several apps. In the meantime it's just something to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you want forum specific content that is generally considered spicy, go to that forum directly rather than complain that every other forum not handle your need for spicy content in an effective way for all parties.

This has nothing to do with complaining about how other forums handle this.

This is about how kbin handles it, and kbin is designed to incorporate multiple forums from multiple instances. In other words, we're talking about how kbin should be able to do what it's designed to do even better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I would like to not hide NSFW content but I would also like to blur it by default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

And if it's a user setting, which is my preference, then everyone can decide for themselves whether or not it's enabled.