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[–] [email protected] 120 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don't give doctors a bad name like that. They work their asses off to help people and go many years being overworked and underpaid to do it

It's the insurance companies that reap the benefits of people's misfortune

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago

Came to say this. For profit health insurance is an abomination and should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

Don't ignore for-profit hospitals with completely made up costs that can vary up to 10x between hospitals in the same city.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s not the doctor and it’s def not the insurance company (although insurance companies are evil in their own way).

Insurance companies make money from limiting what services they cover for you and by negotiating doctors down into lower rates for the services they do cover; the less money they spend on your services is more profit for them.

The people actually making money and charging obscene amount, are

  • facility owners (hospital, clinics, urgent care) who produce nothing, but simply have the capital to own property and start the business
  • drug companies that charge thousands percents of profit simply because they can (remember the epi pen scandal?)

The doctor seeing you wants to make a living doing something they enjoy and excel at; the facility owners are who hire people educated in medical coding just to tack on every possible fee they can, stopping just short of fraud.

That ibuprofen they gave you? It really cost less than a dollar to produce, package, and ship to the facility; but because you were inpatient when you swallowed it, well now it’s $35

That doctor that came by while you were sleeping just to glance at your chart without actually consulting or giving any review of care plan? That’s $600 because fuck you

Having worked in healthcare and insurance for 14yrs now, it’s just fucking depressing to see how everything works.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'm with you but it's not the doctor it's the hospital administrators who live like the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

This is after they take a huge cut out of what the actual healthcare professionals make.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

For real, I know there are exceptions, but I've worked with tons of doctors and not one gave two shits about someone's ability to pay. They would often argue with administration to help people who couldn't pay

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Masters of Accounting

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The doctors chose to work in such a hospital though in order to get higer wages

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The doctor has $375k in loans they need to start paying back pretty soon.

It'll be 20 years before they're in a cushy private office with (only) a 50hr work week.

The issue largely exists in the healthcare industry (administration/insurance) that has grown up around actual medical providers and serve as middlemen and gatekeepers.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago

I’m too European to understand this

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is a shit take.

Doctors don’t discuss billing with patients, or their families. American healthcare is fucked enough in reality without making enemies of those trying to just do their fucking job.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

having been through this exact situation, I get the point of the meme, and realize their intent was that "doctor" should be read as "healthcare industry". Just poor word choice. Other side of the story, the healthcare professionals that cared for him where wonderful and did everything they could for him and I am totally OK with them getting paid for their efforts.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The sad thing is that the people who do the actual work barely see any of the money.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those CEOs work the hardest if you ask me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Especially the ones at the insurance companies where the patients medical decisions are ACTUALLY made.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

All the layers of the bureaucracy managing the profit need their cut.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

They get paid in countries with a decent healthcare system as well

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

My wife had a miscarriage a few years back. Yeah. All we got for our trouble was a massive bill. 0/10. Fuck this shit and this place.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Next week, it's gonna be auto mechanic's fault you can't get Disney in your Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Usually nobody talks how much it costs when it's free.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory "it's not free, you pay for it in taxes" braindead comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Obligatory "I'll take it"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

I went to the hospital once and had to pay for parking! I will never financially recover from this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

This meme only makes sense in third world poverty,. Ok, well that or the richest nation in the planet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

If I thought the people who run for profit hospitals and insurance companies had human souls, I'd say they should be made to do this work so they could maybe see that it shouldn't be about profit.

But then I remembered they're all non-human garbage who should be first up against the wall in the revolution.

Doctors should be left out of this. It's not their fault America (and probably some third world countries) allow profit driven medicine.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The doctor doesn't tell them, they have special people with a little rolling computer that tells them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Need a money back guarantee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Right?

You didn't resolve the issues or mitigate their effect?

Sounds like you didn't deliver, therefore no pay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Laughs in german health care system.

still cries about dead baby