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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (25 children)

Does anyone use this? I've yet to find a defining feature list of why anyone should use it aside from cosmetic differences. Does it even have a defining feature set?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you literally described 99,999% of distros tbf.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure, but that's what I'm asking about. Why should people try this one?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A better question might be why shouldn't they? I'm not being pedantic (at least not intentionally) but if their defining characteristic is that they're nothing special, just a simple Linux distro that does the basic shit easily enough and looks nice - that has major appeal to people unfamiliar with Linux looking to leave other OS's behind. The vast majority of people that use an OS really have very little idea how it works or why. They just want some basic level of understanding and control over it.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use it. It's great. I've tried Linux many times over the past decade but it never stuck until Zorin. If you're coming from Windows it's a very friendly (and polished) way of being welcomed to Linux while also showing off Linux's strengths, things that are often hidden to the user unless they want to explore the terminal.

For Mac users who are Linux-curious I would recommend Ubuntu because it's much similar, whereas Zorin seems clearly designed with people who liked Windows 10 but not Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you want something like Mac, use elementary os.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I disagree: elementary is quite limited with really basic desktop features out of the box, limited personalization, weird interface decisions with some ugly panels, and pretty behind on updates, relying heavily on their own walled gard-

You know what? You're right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Kinda. I'm using Elementary OS right now, and I think of it more like a Chromebook... with more options to expand it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Zorin was, at least a few years ago, tailored to be easy to adapt to for people switching from Windows. This new version looks beautiful, I'm going to take it for a spin!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

oh yeah. its an out of the box for folks (like myself) who like that. Lots of apps preinstalled including play on linux. So I can install and start using without adding any additional software. Its not the only oob distro but combining that with the look feel emulation is great and I have never seen an oob that sets up wine so well to use immediately. So its a bit like a combo of a gaming distro with oob and then the lookNfeel thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tbh I see it as "prettier linux mint". Good distro for beginners but nothing more

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

No, but I used this back when I was a little penguin and I had to "see" something working on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Xrdp server enabled with a toggle instead of messing with the terminal for 1 hour seems unique

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not exclusive to Zorin however, that's just a Gnome 42 feature (unless the base gnome implementation is the one you're referring to that needs configuring in the terminal).

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So let me get this straight, they have a windows look by default, but using GNOME for whatever reason, then they give you the option to switch to something more vanilla GNOME but disable all of the gestures and workspaces, and then they advertise it like they invented gestures when they decide to stop disabling all of them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Nothing, I use gnome, but if you want a windows look by default then plasma is made for that

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

This looks beautiful, congrats to Zorin contributors!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it me or does most of this look like Gnome? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Well I guess that explains it 😅

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So basically Ubuntu-based GNOME-skin OS, advertising GNOME’s new features as their own?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Not much of a progress this time.

Still waiting for zorin grid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All the shit I hate about windows packed into a Linux environment... I guess maybe it will help Windows users switch over?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

We need fewer distros and more focus on things that matter.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

you are free to not make distros

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Damn, those silly volunteers are doing the wrong things in their free time!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're right. I will start a new distro that focuses on the the things that matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Man, I laughed so hard at this one

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I think a unified package manager/app store model that is vetted by all contributing distros would go a long way. SteamOS/Steam deck is bringing gamers to linux and that's great. But it would be easier to bring on a lot more desktop users if there was an app store that every distro could visit. Flatpak is close, snaps however I think are too polarizing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

You're 100% right that this is a danger of attempting to consolidate

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I disagree. Each distro is a user of a thousand different open source systems. When a distro developer integrates gnome, systemd, bluez, or whatever other system they're finding, reporting, and possibly fixing bugs that end users might miss. Other than arch users, who else is compiling these things from scratch and really digging into the documentation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Us weird debian testing users.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Gentoo users? Void users?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

mfw when entire distros are advertising UI features of gnome that came standard on every DE like 15+ years ago, including gnome.

Seriously, Compiz is from 2006.

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